S16E2: Marvel Missteps?
The discussion revolves around the recent underperformance of Marvel properties, specifically "Fantastic Four: First Steps" and the promotion of "Eyes of Wakanda." Despite the anticipation surrounding these properties, both have failed to meet industry expectations, with "Eyes of Wakanda" receiving little promotion and "Fantastic Four" being criticized for its marketing strategy. The speakers analyze the current state of the film-going experience, noting a decline in audience engagement despite some films still turning a profit, including upcoming titles like "Thunderbolts" and "Captain America: Brave New World." They delve into the complexities of viewer expectations and the evolving landscape of superhero cinema, questioning the factors contributing to this perceived downturn in the cinematic experience.
🚨 New Blerd’s Eyeview Episode! 🚨
The crew is back at the table and we’re diving into two hot Marvel topics:
🔥 Fantastic Four — Why is the latest film already being called one of Marvel’s biggest underperformers? We break down the story, casting, and behind-the-scenes drama that might have doomed it.
🛡 Eyes of Wakanda — The 4-episode series that dropped quietly… maybe too quietly. Why isn’t Marvel pushing it like their other projects? Is there a bigger strategy (or problem) at play?
💬 We’re talking box office, marketing strategies, and whether Marvel is losing its magic—or just playing a long game.
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The discussion centers around the comparative performances of two Marvel properties: *Fantastic Four: First Steps* and *Eyes of Wakanda*. It is noted that while the *Fantastic Four* received substantial promotional efforts, it ultimately underperformed at the box office, failing to meet industry expectations. Conversely, *Eyes of Wakanda*, a four-episode series that garnered minimal marketing support, surprisingly succeeded in captivating the audience. The hosts analyze the underlying reasons for these divergent outcomes, considering factors such as audience engagement, the quality of the storytelling, and the general state of the film-going experience which appears to be in decline despite some successes. They delve into why the current cinematic landscape, marked by numerous superhero films, struggles to resonate with audiences, particularly when juxtaposed against profitable titles like *Thunderbolts*, *Superman*, and *Captain America: Brave New World*. The conversation highlights the complexities of viewer expectations in a saturated market, ultimately questioning what can be done to enhance the film experience and ensure greater success for future Marvel projects.
Takeaways:
- The recent underperformance of Fantastic Four: First Steps emphasizes the challenges faced in promoting major superhero properties despite their cinematic potential.
- Eyes of Wakanda, with its minimal promotion, highlights the disparity in marketing strategies for different Marvel properties and the impact on audience engagement.
- The podcast discusses how the film-going experience has declined, even as certain Marvel films continue to generate profits despite mixed reception.
- The conversation reflects on the cultural shifts in superhero narratives and how audience expectations have evolved in contemporary cinema.
- The crew's analysis of Fantastic Four: First Steps and Eyes of Wakanda reveals insights into character development and the importance of cohesive storytelling.
- Marvel's recent missteps in marketing and audience perception illustrate the complexities of sustaining interest in superhero franchises amidst changing viewer dynamics.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Midtown Comics
- Always Press Record tv
- Apple podcast
- Spotify
- Roku
- Blur View
- Mayhem Media
- Marvel
- X Men
- Ironheart
- Captain America 4
- Proud Family
- Louder and Prouder
- South of Midnight
- Gray Wonder Man
- Ray Comics
- Department of Truth
- San Diego Comic Con
- T-Mobile
- Nokia
Transcript
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Speaker C:Hello.
Speaker C:How are you?
Speaker C:How is everybody?
Speaker C:Good evening, good morning, good night.
Speaker B:All of.
Speaker B:All the above.
Speaker B:All the above.
Speaker B:So what's going on in your world?
Speaker B:Since it's.
Speaker B:It's my Friday today.
Speaker B:Good Lord.
Speaker B:I took yesterday.
Speaker C:I took tomorrow, sir.
Speaker C:I'm happy for you.
Speaker C:Have.
Speaker C:Have mercy on the rest of us, sir.
Speaker C:I mean, some of us.
Speaker C:Some of us are feeling.
Speaker B:Hey, the way this is going here, they better.
Speaker B:They better be glad I'm having some mercy.
Speaker C:I wish, I wish.
Speaker C:I wish I had your options.
Speaker D:Currently.
Speaker C:Today is my comic book Wednesday.
Speaker C:So I got a few polls.
Speaker C:I got lucky on two of my polls.
Speaker C:I. I just happened to walk into Midtown Comics.
Speaker B:Comics.
Speaker B:I haven't been there in quite a while.
Speaker C:It's still me.
Speaker B:I'm due for a visit to New York anyway.
Speaker C:I mean, they're.
Speaker C:They're.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Oh, you.
Speaker C:Oh, it's been a while.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker C:They're corporate now, so.
Speaker C:Yeah, they.
Speaker C:They got them.
Speaker C:They got them, Chuck.
Speaker C:I got these bit of roots and.
Speaker B:That and that Bring on the bad guys Doom.
Speaker B:Is that now?
Speaker B:Is that one signed?
Speaker B:I know you had showed us in the chat is signed by Mark.
Speaker B:Is it by Mark Guggenheim?
Speaker C:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker C:That's his little.
Speaker C:Little scribble dabble and.
Speaker C:And the whole Mark offender.
Speaker B:So if you do not have your Bring on the bad guys doom.
Speaker B:At least that's a variant cover by Mark Guggenheim, that sign.
Speaker B:So if you haven't grabbed it.
Speaker C:And he signed a few.
Speaker C:He signed off you.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:He's had a.
Speaker B:It's about to be the season of Doom for, like the next year and a half.
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker C:How many.
Speaker C:How many issues?
Speaker C:They pushing this.
Speaker C:They pushing Doom heavy at Marvel all year.
Speaker B:All year.
Speaker C:Like, sir.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:I know he's next, but can we.
Speaker B:Normally these type.
Speaker B:Normally these types of things happen after a movie is released, but they say, oh, no, we're pushing this way ahead of time.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I don't hate it because there are so many other.
Speaker C:He's actually a lot of characters.
Speaker C:No, not even.
Speaker C:I mean, yeah, him.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:But he's bringing a whole bunch of.
Speaker C:I don't like dictators.
Speaker C:A whole bunch of other characters to life.
Speaker C:Like, secondary characters that I appreciate.
Speaker C:I like.
Speaker C:I like the underdogs.
Speaker B:It all depends on who your writers are.
Speaker B:And with Guggenheim being on board, that makes all the difference.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Mayhem Media.
Speaker B:What's happening.
Speaker D:People?
Speaker B:He said, hold on.
Speaker B:That's just for.
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Speaker C:Shout out to Journey Smollett.
Speaker E:You know, Rip.
Speaker E:I mean, not Rip.
Speaker E:What's that?
Speaker B:Not Rip.
Speaker B:Why would you.
Speaker E:My bad.
Speaker E:We need to make a less serious Rip.
Speaker E:Comment it down in chat.
Speaker B:Hold on that note.
Speaker C:Reverend, please lay hands on this young brother too.
Speaker D:My hands will burn up if I touch this boy.
Speaker D:I don't know about that.
Speaker C:I need these.
Speaker D:What's going on, you sexy beans?
Speaker B:Let me shout out some of the people that's in the chat right now.
Speaker B:Shout out to Mal.
Speaker B:Mal's in the building, as always.
Speaker B:What's going on?
Speaker B:All nerd entertainment is in the building.
Speaker B:What's happening?
Speaker B:Thank you for joining and joining the crew.
Speaker B:Bama's here.
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Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Some of the testicles.
Speaker D:So now.
Speaker D:So Lady Mandalore said this was her comic book Wednesday.
Speaker D:So technically this is my Thursday because I had to take the day off because a injury got re aggravated.
Speaker D:So I took today off to recover.
Speaker B:I told you to stop putting your foot.
Speaker C:Wait, hold on.
Speaker C:I told you stop carrying these hoes.
Speaker D:Listen, I. I need.
Speaker D:In other words, I need to be hosed to be carried, so I ain't got to worry about that.
Speaker D:That Deficit is negative 5 as far as my foot.
Speaker D:That's the problem.
Speaker D:So I had a broken toe re aggravated, so I'm pretty much at home.
Speaker B:Oh, I was just joking about.
Speaker D:No, no.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker D:My brother.
Speaker B:Once again, once again, mutant power.
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Speaker D:But you know the good thing, though?
Speaker D:Because just like Lady Mandalore, I, I, I want to show a couple of things, if that's okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:All right.
Speaker D:So Green Lantern number five.
Speaker D:Green Lantern.
Speaker D:Green Lantern.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:I saw it in the store, and I'm like, do I have this yet?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker D:The answer to that is no.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:Of course I got my bitter root number five.
Speaker D:So you know what?
Speaker B:I hate y', all, because, yo, amazing.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, my brick and mortar doesn't carry a lot of those type.
Speaker B:It carries, like, local indie creators, which is fine.
Speaker D:Which is great.
Speaker B:I won't.
Speaker C:I want.
Speaker B:They chose violence.
Speaker C:I won't.
Speaker B:Bitter root.
Speaker B:I won't.
Speaker B:I want those.
Speaker B:I'll go.
Speaker B:I'll gladly pay for them.
Speaker E:Call some Black Panthers.
Speaker E:Wow.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:For your conspiracy theorist world tree number 16 is out.
Speaker D:And let me tell you, this bad boy slaps so hard, it makes Department of Truth look like a fever dream.
Speaker D:Put it like that.
Speaker B:Oh, much like the timeline we're on.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker D:And San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker D:I did not get to show you this.
Speaker D:X Men, age of Revelation 0.
Speaker D:This was given out at the X Men panel on Thursday because they're getting.
Speaker B:Ready to start that.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker D:And let me tell you, the covers and what they reviewed.
Speaker D:Oh, my gosh, I am geeked for this.
Speaker D:But if you went to the panel, everyone got this, so this is an exclusive, so.
Speaker B:So for some of you who are new to the comics realm, go track down the trade.
Speaker B:Age of Apocalypse.
Speaker B:Fine reading, I'm telling you.
Speaker B:Oh, fine reading.
Speaker D:People like me and Chris got the whole run, which I'm proud that I finally did.
Speaker B:That's how.
Speaker B:It's how we found out about Wolverine and Claus.
Speaker D:Oh, she's got that look.
Speaker D:She's got that face.
Speaker C:No, you know.
Speaker C:You know about this, too.
Speaker C:I just happen to have the hard copy.
Speaker C:Please go get this.
Speaker D:Yes, go.
Speaker D:Getting that.
Speaker C:Please go.
Speaker C:As a matter of fact, New Game plus.
Speaker C:New game.
Speaker B:New game plus, he's going to be on your show Sunday.
Speaker C:Yes, he is.
Speaker C:He's a lovely gentleman, Mr. Colleen Carson.
Speaker C:He's lovely.
Speaker C:He's lovely.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's gonna be on her show.
Speaker C:My show.
Speaker C:You're gonna talk about this book.
Speaker B:This book.
Speaker C:This book is raycomics.com R A E comics.
Speaker B:They put out some really good stuff.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, Great comics.
Speaker D:Puts out some really good crap they be putting in work.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I would love to see some.
Speaker B:Some animations from those.
Speaker C:This Is this.
Speaker C:This the one, though?
Speaker C:This the one you need the animation for?
Speaker C:I'm telling you.
Speaker C:I'm telling.
Speaker D:I think MAYHEM would like that one, honestly, because.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker C:On real tip.
Speaker C:No, that's.
Speaker C:That's up.
Speaker C:Yo.
Speaker C:Up your.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Too far out of boots on the ground.
Speaker B:How's everything going on in your neck of the woods?
Speaker F:I heard broken toes mentioned, and then immediately I felt I was summoned.
Speaker D:So I don't want to be a part of that club.
Speaker D:Okay?
Speaker D:I don't.
Speaker D:I really don't.
Speaker F:Neither do I. I have this way.
Speaker F:I wear carbon fiber inserts.
Speaker F:It's not great over here.
Speaker E:Oh, Lord, have her see.
Speaker D:I wish I had it like that.
Speaker D:I've got.
Speaker D:It's like Skittles in a meat bag on my foot.
Speaker D:So that's how it feels right now.
Speaker F:I was just told, hey, we had to, like, put a regular saw away and go get the big one, which we haven't used in years, so.
Speaker B:So real quick, before we get to our main two subjects, what is a project that recently came out that you've missed or.
Speaker B:And why you want to watch it?
Speaker B:There's been too much.
Speaker B:I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker B:I like, like, a lot dropped, like, in a week at one point.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I might hate.
Speaker C:I might hate watch this.
Speaker C:I do not want to watch this.
Speaker C:I promise you, I do not want to watch this.
Speaker C:No, I take that back.
Speaker C:No, scrap that.
Speaker C:Different project.
Speaker C:George Washington Black.
Speaker C:I need to see that.
Speaker C:I need to see that.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:I. I started it.
Speaker B:It's good.
Speaker B:It starts off I, I, I. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Sterling K. Brown's in this.
Speaker B:Another.
Speaker B:Another.
Speaker C:Hi.
Speaker B:Mr. Man is out there.
Speaker B:I don't know why they're not giving his brother's fault.
Speaker B:He acts his tail off.
Speaker C:I like.
Speaker C:I like your acting.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And other things, too.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And what's.
Speaker B:What's bad about it?
Speaker B:Here's.
Speaker B:Here's the crazy thing.
Speaker B:Oh, I've always watched him.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:Yeah, but did you watch him in Supernatural?
Speaker B:And you say what then you ain't watched because.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, he was in Supernatural too long.
Speaker C:I can't.
Speaker F:I don't.
Speaker C:I can't do that.
Speaker B:I don't count that.
Speaker B:I don't count the last season because damn covet.
Speaker B:But yeah, he was.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was the much earlier seasons.
Speaker B:It was the much earlier season.
Speaker F:I very much learned about him, like a lot of people, as Randall from this Is Us.
Speaker C:See, I mean, that's the only way I know him.
Speaker F:So then jumping from Randall to Killmonger's dad was quite the shift.
Speaker F:But it's just like y' all stabbed the nicest man on television.
Speaker G:Why, Bam.
Speaker D:Off guard, he was in Supernatural.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Yes, he was.
Speaker B:I mean, that's just like Miami Vice.
Speaker B:You know, there are.
Speaker B:You'd be surprised.
Speaker B:Of all the cameos in Miami Vice, damn near have it up.
Speaker B:Of the Hollywood we know right now, it was.
Speaker B:Was in Miami Vice at some point.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's crazy who all showed up there.
Speaker B:What about you, man?
Speaker B:What project have you missed and why you want to watch it?
Speaker E:Project I missed project.
Speaker E:I missed F1.
Speaker E:I did not get a chance to see that.
Speaker E:I. I dig a good Brad Pitts.
Speaker E:I dig a good Damson Idris, and I've heard phenomenal things about the camera work.
Speaker E:So that.
Speaker E:That sounds.
Speaker E:That sounds down my alley just okay not to see it yet.
Speaker B:No, I'm just saying.
Speaker F:I'm just saying I saw it early.
Speaker F:I think you would really like it, because that's it.
Speaker F:That was my thing.
Speaker F:I'm like, I'm not a rate.
Speaker F:Like, usually you either go, what was the one?
Speaker F:I think it was Sasha Baron Cohen, and he was a racer, but he got, like, a bat, him and another dude.
Speaker F:It was called.
Speaker B:It was called the Ballad of Ricky.
Speaker B:Teladega Nights.
Speaker B:No, the Ballad of Ricky Bobby, because he was in that.
Speaker F:There was another one I think he was in, or someone.
Speaker F:They had that same look.
Speaker F:And it was a more serious racing film.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:E N N X Center.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker F:That might have been it.
Speaker F:Whichever one where the dude got in the crash and they were, like, sticking the tube down his lungs to remove the ash.
Speaker F:Like, you either go that.
Speaker F:Like, with racing films, you either go that route or Ricky Bobby.
Speaker F:There's usually not a good in between F1.
Speaker B:Almost like a Days of Thunder, maybe.
Speaker F:The F1 has, like, a perfect mix of, like, if you're not a racing fan, they make it easy for you to follow.
Speaker F:Like, how he's bending the rule and why Navy is doing a Shadow Clone Jutsu.
Speaker F:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker F:Sorry.
Speaker F:They do a good job of, like, explaining, like, not dumbing it down.
Speaker F:Like, oh, this is what he's doing.
Speaker F:This is what he's teaching.
Speaker F:Only I can say is why they market it as, like, Brad Pitt's movie when it's really.
Speaker F:It is equally him and Dan's movie.
Speaker F:That's a whole nother discussion.
Speaker F:But it's.
Speaker F:It's a really good film.
Speaker F:That's definitely one for the collection if you need like a new Blu Ray to add in.
Speaker F:Yeah, but it's like the movie takes place in all the places that damn it is from.
Speaker F:So I'm like, you think you would.
Speaker B:Be more gear because it's Brad.
Speaker B:Because it's Brad Pitt, but the whole.
Speaker F:Movie is Brad Pitt, like becoming Damn's wingman on the track when you watch it.
Speaker F:So it's like it's equally parts both of their films here.
Speaker B:And we're going to talk a little more like how that.
Speaker B:How I think that works.
Speaker B:A lot of people, the.
Speaker B:The majority of people in this world, they have short mind span, they have short attention spans, and then two, they.
Speaker B:They have.
Speaker B:They have comprehension issues.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They don't comprehend.
Speaker B:Well, you know, yeah, we know Damson injuries and yes, we know Brad Pitt, but.
Speaker B:And we know Damson ninja Idris can act.
Speaker B:We know that.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So for us, we will say, yeah, I'll go see this.
Speaker B:This is the first feature film.
Speaker B:Yeah, do it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But not.
Speaker B:Not everyone thinks like that.
Speaker B:They don't have the open mindset to.
Speaker F:Things that I kind of.
Speaker F:Me and.
Speaker F:Me and a few other homies kind of had that thought because this was a very non American film.
Speaker F:Like, they go to this.
Speaker F:Like, they come to the States to get Brad Pitt and then they go like, everywhere but America for these tracks.
Speaker C:So that's where.
Speaker C:That's where F1 is.
Speaker B:There's no everywhere but America.
Speaker F:That's only so with.
Speaker F:With a non American co star, you think he would be like, equally on the posters.
Speaker F:But they just got Brad Pitt up there like, he man posing.
Speaker B:So what.
Speaker B:So what's up?
Speaker B:What's the project?
Speaker B:Since we got you too far, what's the project that you've missed?
Speaker B:I don't know what he hasn't missed one or two.
Speaker B:Just one.
Speaker B:Just one.
Speaker F:Okay, well, quick shout out because they're officially launched since we beg on the the Tokens podcast, I've been meaning to catch up on.
Speaker B:So it's good.
Speaker F:Props to Ms. G. It's good.
Speaker B:Giovanni Samuels.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's a.
Speaker B:That's a good thing.
Speaker B:You got.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:She got gold that second episode.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm at work.
Speaker B:I shouldn't be watching this.
Speaker F:I need to binge that.
Speaker F:But as far as, like, tv, if y' all need something that is like, technically not canceled but still needs to be ordered more episodes and black and unproblematic and just a good.
Speaker F:Turn your brain off for the children, please go watch the Full season of Fairly Odd Parents in the Wish that's now on Netflix.
Speaker F:Yeah, we had.
Speaker F:When James was on.
Speaker F:They only had the first 10 episodes.
Speaker F:The full season is out now.
Speaker F:And I don't know what they're smoking over at Paramount, but please.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:I don't think they know what they're smoking over a Paramount.
Speaker F:They got those new people in charge and they just asked all the wrong things.
Speaker F:So please, if you can go watch it, leave it on the background.
Speaker F:Please go watch the new fairly appearance spin off.
Speaker F:It is actually very good.
Speaker F:Does a good job paying homage to the source material without relying too much on everything previously.
Speaker B:Right, Navy, what's the project that you've missed outside of Superman?
Speaker B:We knew about that one.
Speaker D:Well, I'm taking care of that tomorrow with.
Speaker D:With my three course meal and everything.
Speaker D:So I'll be fine.
Speaker C:I get paid tomorrow.
Speaker D:Oh, so do I.
Speaker C:I' ma still be broke.
Speaker D:Stupid paradise.
Speaker D:I'm really interested.
Speaker D:Yeah, I have not been.
Speaker B:They just.
Speaker B:They just wrapped season two.
Speaker B:They just wrapped season two.
Speaker B:That's a good show.
Speaker D:I've heard nothing but good things about it.
Speaker D:I genuinely want to sit down and check it out.
Speaker B:It's the very best of everything.
Speaker B:Like they don't.
Speaker B:They don't waste time in the first episode.
Speaker B:They do not waste time.
Speaker B:So it's not, it's not like this long, drawn out what's going on.
Speaker B:They get right to it.
Speaker C:Oh, baby.
Speaker B:Oh, it is.
Speaker B:And it's good.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's like a.
Speaker B:Who done it?
Speaker B:Slash.
Speaker B:Sci Fi.
Speaker B:Slash.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:I'd say it's been a while since I've seen a political, you know, a political thriller.
Speaker D:I've always gotten a kick out of those because if House of Cards hadn't gone to the like, it had.
Speaker D:It had me by.
Speaker D:It had me by the soul from season one.
Speaker D:It had me by the soul.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:So I'm looking forward to seeing what paradise brings to me.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's every bit of good.
Speaker B:Every bit of good, everybody.
Speaker B:Acting storyline theme.
Speaker B:I'm just like, oh, you didn't waste then.
Speaker B:This is some.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:I've watched Loss, so you already know.
Speaker B:Like, I'm like, I've spent all this time doing what, you know, a whole summer gone just to catch it because I didn't watch it from it from its birth.
Speaker B:I caught it during the strike when, When Hulu.
Speaker B:When Hulu was free.
Speaker B:Yeah, when Hulu was.
Speaker B:Used to be free.
Speaker B:So by the time.
Speaker B:By the time there I think by the time their fourth season started, I was caught up.
Speaker B:I was wrapped in.
Speaker C:And I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I never did it again.
Speaker B:I said, oh, we're not doing this.
Speaker B:That's what watch from.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Great actors.
Speaker B:But if we're.
Speaker B:It's the same route.
Speaker B:I can't do it.
Speaker C:It, bro.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's good.
Speaker C:It's good.
Speaker C:Oh, but also, it's developed by the.
Speaker C:The dudes from.
Speaker C:That did End Game.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker B:Oh, the Russos.
Speaker C:They're involved, so in theory, it should be fine.
Speaker B:Also, from Cleveland, Ohio, shout out to the Realtor Brothers.
Speaker C:But it's a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I got.
Speaker B:I got through a good portion of the first season.
Speaker B:I think I watched.
Speaker B:No, I did.
Speaker B:I watched the whole first season, but shout out to Candy B.
Speaker B:Who's like, she's wrapped in.
Speaker B:Like, she's locked in and telling it.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I can't invest anymore.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:Because I was like.
Speaker B:Because everything I was seeing was questions, questions, questions, and I'm like, I'm getting PTSD from Lost.
Speaker B:I. I can't do it now.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So our first part of the show, we are talking about.
Speaker B:Actually, the whole show is about the Marvel missteps.
Speaker B:Fantastic Four.
Speaker B:Fantastic.
Speaker B:Fantastic Four.
Speaker B:First steps recently dropped.
Speaker B:And in my opinion, it's a good film.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a fun film to sit back and watch.
Speaker B:It has a very 60s aesthetic.
Speaker B:It does not take place in the 616 universe as we know it to be, is on a totally different Earth.
Speaker B:Pedro Pascal, who was one of the other hardest working men in Hollywood right now, once again, is playing a dad.
Speaker D:An autistic dad at that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, no, for real, I. I will say this.
Speaker C:Excuse me.
Speaker B:They got Galactus, right?
Speaker B:They got the set designs.
Speaker B:Every set design, Jack Kirby infused.
Speaker B:That's all I seen.
Speaker B:I seen nothing but Jack Kirby.
Speaker B:And I said, if this man was alive, he'd probably shed a tear from happiness, of course.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I wasn't wrong.
Speaker B:I'm just looking at stuff, and I'm like, okay, this 60s aesthetic is Jack Kirby.
Speaker B:The fantastic car is Jack Kirby.
Speaker B:These design.
Speaker B:When they go see Galactus, and I'm like, this is all Jack.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is all the king right here.
Speaker B:And I wasn't.
Speaker B:I wasn't disappointed.
Speaker B:So I want to ask one of the questions that Mayhem set up was, do you think Galactus was defeated too easily?
Speaker F:Lord.
Speaker D:Okay, okay.
Speaker C:No, y' all gotta go off.
Speaker F:I feel like you want to go off?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker F:No.
Speaker B:Because how he was.
Speaker B:How he was defeated.
Speaker B:Kira was all on board because somebody and it.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:And I'm not putting on Pedro.
Speaker B:I'm like, look, he's carrying everything else.
Speaker B:He might need to take a breather right now.
Speaker B:Vanessa Kirby.
Speaker B:No relation as Invisible Woman.
Speaker B:Fantastic.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:There wasn't any.
Speaker B:There wasn't any using the shield and nosebleeds.
Speaker B:No, she.
Speaker B:She was very much in tune with what she needed to do.
Speaker D:I. I don't think he was defeated too easily.
Speaker D:Only because in this iteration of Galactus, he was only.
Speaker D:What's the best way I do it?
Speaker D:It's like.
Speaker D:It's almost like a fledgling version of him.
Speaker D:You know, the.
Speaker D:You just discovered it for the first time.
Speaker D:And he's.
Speaker D:He's so focused on his hunger that he.
Speaker D:You know, he only knows so much of what he can and can't do.
Speaker D:So I don't think he was defeated all that easily.
Speaker D:But at the same time, they could have had him do it just a little bit more.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:And I like how the.
Speaker D:If you've never seen the movie and I've seen it twice, so, yeah.
Speaker D:If you don't like me.
Speaker B:Oh, well, what fan doesn't see a movie more than once?
Speaker B:I'm just.
Speaker B:Oh, I seen it once.
Speaker B:It was my copy.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker D:Oh, I saw it.
Speaker D:Shout outs to being a Jack Kirby fan from from nine on up.
Speaker D:But I thought the.
Speaker D:The highlight on sue was where I got my most joy, honestly.
Speaker D:Because if we talk about the Fantastic Four of the team, she is speak of unspeakably the most powerful out of the entire team.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:The most powerful out of the entire team.
Speaker D:Shout out to the goat himself.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Jack Kirby.
Speaker B:That was a painting that was done for me because I'm.
Speaker B:I'm a fan of Lee Kirby and several others, and I still need to get some of those paintings too.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I agree.
Speaker D:You know, the highlight should have been.
Speaker D:And from the beginning, you could tell the highlight was on her, which is what I enjoyed.
Speaker D:And when they got.
Speaker D:When they went through the cosmic storm, I sat there and I thought, Ben Strong.
Speaker D:Johnny's fiery read a stretchy stretch.
Speaker D:But her power is so hidden.
Speaker D:Hers has more layers than all the other ones.
Speaker D:So I appreciated how they do it.
Speaker D:I don't think he was easily.
Speaker D:Definitely for you.
Speaker B:Lady Mandalore.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is anybody?
Speaker C:Anybody?
Speaker B:I'm cool.
Speaker C:I'm waiting.
Speaker C:I got.
Speaker C:I got time.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker D:Remember, we got an hour and a half.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker F:Remember that.
Speaker D:We got an hour and a half.
Speaker B:Okay, I'mma give it to.
Speaker B:I'mma give it to our.
Speaker F:Our.
Speaker B:Our.
Speaker B:Our movie offician, Mayhem.
Speaker E:I think.
Speaker E:I didn't think he was defeated too easily in real time.
Speaker E:After I left the theater, I saw some of the discourse online and people were complaining about it.
Speaker E:I think maybe to Navy's point of how strong sue actually is, maybe they could have laid some of that groundwork a little earlier.
Speaker E:Because when they first see Galactus, they're like, holy.
Speaker E:What the hell is that?
Speaker E:But then, like, they just push him into a big hole and it's like, oh, okay, that didn't.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker E:We were kind of a little nervous for nothing there.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:I think it speaks more or less because, you know, I mean, this is a spoiler section.
Speaker B:We're not holding things back.
Speaker B:It's been a while, I think because she's a mother now.
Speaker B:Because they didn't waste any time there.
Speaker G:We didn't need the origin story.
Speaker B:They got.
Speaker B:They got right past all of that.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They do it like in a bit of an exposition, but there's really no.
Speaker B:No flashback or anything like that other than, I think a radio transmission that was heard or something.
Speaker D:It was just a documentary esque.
Speaker D:With the.
Speaker D:With the transmission overlay in the background.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:And they didn't.
Speaker B:Which I. I appreciate because we don't always need that.
Speaker B:So providing that, yeah, this team has been here.
Speaker B:This has been Earth's protectors.
Speaker B:They've been here for.
Speaker B:They've been here for a while.
Speaker B:And they get right to the pregnancy of Franklin Richards.
Speaker B:And I think because once she becomes a mother, she doesn't realize, as they say, that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That mama strength kicked in.
Speaker D:Oh, did it ever.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's how I took it.
Speaker D:Thanks.
Speaker E:That's awesome.
Speaker E:I said it was like, you know that that pin child under a car.
Speaker E:Like you magically find the strength to.
Speaker F:To.
Speaker E:To do what you need to do.
Speaker E:I was like, all right, all right.
Speaker B:Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker E:I see it.
Speaker E:I see it.
Speaker F:For me, it was also the fact that everyone is fighting around trying not to crush this unfortunate infant who was caught in the middle of all this.
Speaker F:So he didn't even have both hands for you.
Speaker F:Like, may.
Speaker F:Maybe he gets a.
Speaker F:Because he's not dead.
Speaker F:He's just lost.
Speaker F:So he.
Speaker B:He's moved to another.
Speaker B:Somewhere.
Speaker B:Another part of base.
Speaker B:We're not sure what.
Speaker B:Because that was the whole idea was them building this massive, complicated machine that would move Earth.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And because Silver Surfer destroyed most of those.
Speaker B:Those projections, they like, read like well, why don't we try to move him?
Speaker B:You know, the whole.
Speaker F:Let me just take bikini bottom and push it somewhere else.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:And then it wasn't read or it wasn't Susan by herself.
Speaker B:Neither.
Speaker B:It was, you know, it was actually.
Speaker B:Everybody had a hand and how this all built up.
Speaker B:And I like that this went and got right to it and told the story and didn't really waste a lot of time.
Speaker B:The Mole man thing was.
Speaker B:Was a pleasant surprise.
Speaker D:That was hilarious.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, because what you see in a lot of films, a lot of the superhero films is like, the villain dies, and here, because of Susan's compassion and understanding, he's.
Speaker B:He's like, no, there's a reason why he's upset.
Speaker B:And she's created this truce between upper Earth and lower Earth.
Speaker D:Subterranean.
Speaker B:Yeah, subterranean.
Speaker B:So she managed to create that, and he's very well to be underminer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker F:That whole movie is basically just the.
Speaker F:Not Fantastic Four featuring.
Speaker F:Yeah, Featuring Mole Man.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:I mean, that's.
Speaker B:That's what.
Speaker B:That's what the Incredibles were.
Speaker B:You know, everything in the Incredibles is.
Speaker B:Is every bit fantastic for.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They took.
Speaker B:They took their keys, they took their.
Speaker B:Their cues from old FF issues.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I, I, you know, Tory, go ahead.
Speaker B:I'm gonna let you get yourself.
Speaker F:I feel like they talked up her diplomacy a lot, but like you said, they could have saved.
Speaker F:They could have shown her skill set a little bit more in the beginning.
Speaker F:Like, I think we were supposed to see more even with, like, Red Ghost, because we saw them take down 1 8, but then they cut him out the film completely.
Speaker B:John Malovich completely cut out the film, which I thought was odd choice.
Speaker B:Yeah, you got a high ranking actor and you cut him completely.
Speaker B:That's kind of weird.
Speaker C:Hey, sir.
Speaker E:That just means he can come back as someone else.
Speaker F:But, yeah, that.
Speaker F:So I think at times when they could have showcased their powers was basically replaced with Johnny and Ben.
Speaker F:Basically the whole.
Speaker F:Was saying, I'll fight anyone anywhere.
Speaker F:Because they immediately show, go ahead.
Speaker F:It's not immortal.
Speaker F:He's just big.
Speaker F:Because they immediately went to work and started breaking on the way out, which I'm like, I appreciate it.
Speaker F:We're at least not waiting for the action.
Speaker F:Because Johnny was just like, all right.
Speaker F:We tried diplomacy.
Speaker F:That didn't work.
Speaker F:And then Ben.
Speaker F:Ben with the linebacker blitz on Shala Ball into the wall.
Speaker F:I'm like, okay, so she's not immortal either.
Speaker F:At least I know we know she can Be touched.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker F:But I, I, I feel like when they, I don't know, I was expecting a little bit more motherly rage during the whole stressed out birthing scene.
Speaker F:But, yeah, I like what they did for her in the end, even though it came at the cost of her literal life.
Speaker F:But I'm curious to see if she's done with diplomacy after this or if they put her back into Naruto talk, no jutsu standards for whatever else she's gonna be in.
Speaker B:I, I don't see them, I don't see them taking that character and doing snotty kitt.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I don't see them taking Susan's, like, diplomacy path away, like, because actually, I think that's, I think that's very endearing.
Speaker B:What I liked about this film is each one of these characters embodied everything.
Speaker B:I've read about them over the years, but they kind of expanded a little bit.
Speaker B:Like, thing.
Speaker B:The city loves him.
Speaker B:Despite his look, he's not hung up on that.
Speaker B:You know, he's, he's, he's very, he's almost ex.
Speaker B:He's, he's accepting, he's confident.
Speaker B:You know, he's not afraid to go talk to anyone in this point, in this case is Natasha Leone.
Speaker B:So he's like.
Speaker B:And she's very receiving of it.
Speaker B:The kids love him.
Speaker B:You know, he's not this, he's not this big creature, you know, with the ugly mug that everybody's scared of.
Speaker B:He's like, he's walking freely in New York City with no problem.
Speaker B:Johnny is every bit Johnny.
Speaker B:Shout out to Joseph Quinn.
Speaker B:He, he's phenomenal.
Speaker B:You know, he runs into the Super Silver Surfer and he was like, yeah, hot alien.
Speaker B:You know, I'm like, yeah, that's, that's Johnny.
Speaker B:That's, that's Johnny.
Speaker B:But then they also show, like, like, he's, he's not this big dumb hunk.
Speaker B:He's, he has a PhD.
Speaker F:Everyone has some level of, like, education this time around.
Speaker F:They're not just, it's not just Reed and Friends in the Sky.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, he's, he's doing his thing.
Speaker B:Like, when they go to break down, like, the, the language that he hears, and he's like, I heard it before.
Speaker B:And there's a bunch of recordings that Reed had.
Speaker B:And he's literally like, I could put this together.
Speaker B:And he figures it out and I'm like, I like this touch.
Speaker B:They didn't make him just.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:They didn't make him a horny hothead.
Speaker B:That's what it Boiled down to, you know, and.
Speaker B:And Pedro playing Reed was every bit of all science.
Speaker B:All science.
Speaker B:He gets distracted, that's all.
Speaker B:That's a form of autism, you know, or adhd, however you want to look at it.
Speaker B:But, yeah, you know, even when that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That deal was being brought to the table and you could see the.
Speaker B:In his face, and even Susan was like, oh, my God, I know you're not.
Speaker F:He just.
Speaker B:He said.
Speaker F:He said he considered.
Speaker F:It was considered.
Speaker F:Not.
Speaker F:Not going to be.
Speaker B:It's a thing that Reed does.
Speaker B:He thinks so much about the greater good and how to fix everything that sometimes his decision making, or at least the paths that he creates, aren't the paths that you need to be walking down anyway.
Speaker D:He goes around the corner to go next door, literally.
Speaker B:Say it, man.
Speaker B:Say it.
Speaker E:All I was gonna say is that I think as.
Speaker E:As.
Speaker E:As Reed is presented, as far as just thinking of every possible outcome all at once.
Speaker E:I think my brain works a lot like that.
Speaker E:So me personally, in the theater, I was like, if this don't learn to lie, it is pissing me off.
Speaker F:That was me.
Speaker F:I would have been like, he wants all our first.
Speaker F:We would have been prepping, like, because they were technically gone a month.
Speaker F:So I'm like, we would have been finessing a game plan in the ship every day.
Speaker F:Okay, before we land, everyone go over their lines or let sue speak.
Speaker D:And he's standing by.
Speaker D:He's standing behind, just looking apprehensive.
Speaker D:Just looking out at the reporters.
Speaker C:Just mind your business, babe.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, let me talk to people.
Speaker C:That's what I do.
Speaker F:Like, you got Ben there.
Speaker F:Clearly no one's going to rush you.
Speaker F:They know better.
Speaker F:That's why nobody tried to open.
Speaker F:Overstepped the line for the press.
Speaker F:They knew what not to do.
Speaker F:And then when they were like, give up the baby.
Speaker F:And then Ben came outside, I was like, you know what?
Speaker F:I wasn't familiar with your game.
Speaker F:I'm just, peace, love, and chicken grease.
Speaker F:What were we saying now?
Speaker D:Like, without the chicken.
Speaker F:I'd be.
Speaker F:I'd be upset, though, if I had to, like, turn my Nintendo off every day at 6pm and the.
Speaker F:Didn't work, though.
Speaker F:I'm just.
Speaker B:I found that to be the funniest thing.
Speaker B:And I'm like, they got everyone to cut their power off.
Speaker B:Everyone on the planet at the same time.
Speaker F:Everyone except Latveria.
Speaker F:I was about to say that every day.
Speaker F:Every day.
Speaker F:Like, he's like, they're probably floating in Earth.
Speaker F:Like, which one is Earth?
Speaker F:And, like, see the one with the Little light bulb over there.
Speaker F:Like, like, that one little area is.
Speaker F:Latvaire is like, I'm not doing it, like, out of spite.
Speaker F:Like the Tournament of Power, when Goku's like, I need a spirit moment.
Speaker F:Vegeta was like, y', all, I'm not doing it.
Speaker B:But no, and I, I can appreciate how each one of these characters were portrayed.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It really worked because seeing Reed have that look of.
Speaker B:I thought about it.
Speaker B:I don't want to do it.
Speaker B:But sue seeing right through it, hence her instantly getting pissed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Can we talk about the mvp?
Speaker D:Herbie.
Speaker B:Herbie.
Speaker B:Which, if you see the behind the scenes of how they make.
Speaker B:They are so close.
Speaker B:They are so close to, like, having an actual working robot on sets of movies.
Speaker B:It's ridiculous.
Speaker B:I think it's cool.
Speaker F:If Elon asked to contribute.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:Because it wouldn't be his in the first place.
Speaker B:He, he would have stole the design from somebody.
Speaker F:I'm just saying, like, if he's like, I think I can.
Speaker F:Hey, I can tweak it.
Speaker F:No, not, Not a chip, not a dip, not nothing.
Speaker F:Stay away from Herbie.
Speaker B:I, I will say this.
Speaker B:That point where Galactus comes to Earth and it surprises Herbie.
Speaker B:Now Herbie talks in a bunch of beeps, and I, I swear to God, that's what I, I thought he said.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker E:This movie needs to be rated R because Herbie dropped two F bombs.
Speaker B:As far as the way I looked at it is like, you know, R2D2, you know, chopper from the Star Wars Rebels.
Speaker B:Like, you know, when they, they cursing, you could tell it's, it's, it's inflection.
Speaker B:And so I was like, damn, I learned how to read Droid.
Speaker B:Thanks, Star Wars.
Speaker B:So just hearing, hearing Herbie doing, you know, like, yeah, that was what the.
Speaker B:But I, but everything about this, to me, the aesthetic, the setup, the designs, you know, seeing the behind the scenes, which we've seen earlier today when they showed the behind the scenes of how they made her, this is what that movie magic is all about.
Speaker B:Like, I come from era where I remember Johnny Five, and I just thought that was cool.
Speaker B:And then you see how you see the wires and how they made him work.
Speaker B:And I'm like, now we're not even using wires anymore.
Speaker B:So I, I, I, I, I, I can dig it.
Speaker D:I, I do like how they portrayed Ben, because, yes, we never see him do the go to the gradual transformation, which is great.
Speaker D:But we see him looking at reflections of himself in the, you know, just kind of glances.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And Just desires.
Speaker D:Like, what I.
Speaker D:You could tell deep inside, he's like, this is not what I wanted.
Speaker D:I didn't want any of this.
Speaker D:But what got me is when he grew a beard and he was shaving.
Speaker B:Let me tell you, the rock beard.
Speaker D:I giggled so hard, I was like, hey, Laney.
Speaker D:Rock beard.
Speaker G:Let's go, lady.
Speaker B:I remember someone actually saying.
Speaker B:I remember someone actually saying there's a scene when Galactus there on Earth, and he grabs Reed, and he basically is stretching him, and they're just like, well, he.
Speaker B:He should be able to.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker B:He should be able to be used to that.
Speaker B:And I said, no, you got to think about it.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's a size difference here.
Speaker B:Like, this is Galactus where He's.
Speaker B:He's probably never went that far.
Speaker B:That's, like, beyond.
Speaker B:That's like, beyond his point.
Speaker B:He's like, yo, I've never.
Speaker B:This is way past what I'm used to doing.
Speaker F:That's something you should.
Speaker F:You should have a little more give than that.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, like, I'm thinking, like, is this.
Speaker F:Like, use his full wingspan.
Speaker F:That's what we gonna do.
Speaker F:Like.
Speaker C:Okay, I'mma.
Speaker C:I'mma give y' all some perspective, okay?
Speaker C:Just because I can push a whole baby out my body, I knew she was gonna do.
Speaker C:Doesn't mean that it's go.
Speaker C:Everything's gonna be all right, okay.
Speaker C:At the pushing.
Speaker C:Some things you got.
Speaker C:You got.
Speaker C:You gotta stitch it back together on some parts.
Speaker C:Okay?
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker C:Perspective.
Speaker C:Everything.
Speaker C:Don't stretch for ever.
Speaker D:Anatomy Lesson is brought to you by Bill does because.
Speaker D:Why not?
Speaker B:No, but.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And she has a very valid and strong point.
Speaker B:Like, that's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:If you're not used to doing that, how would you know?
Speaker B:You could.
Speaker C:You know, ain't nobody who.
Speaker C:Who's Stretch, okay?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, this is Galactus.
Speaker B:We're not.
Speaker B:We're not talking about, like, when he's wrapping his arms around some girders trying to stop a building or something.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:No, we're talking Galactic this.
Speaker C:I'm a pre pause myself.
Speaker C:Pre pause.
Speaker C:Who.
Speaker C:Who out here is stretching out Reed like that.
Speaker E:Tried to judge me?
Speaker C:Who is putting.
Speaker C:Who's stretching out that Garnet Mayhem.
Speaker D:Son of a mother man.
Speaker D:Come on.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker F:I judge nothing.
Speaker F:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:And I'm glad I'm not the only.
Speaker B:And I'm sure that there's other people who.
Speaker B:Who agree with what me and Kira are saying, but it's true.
Speaker B:It's like, yo, if he.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:They haven't met a threat like this.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker D:You know, learning their powers, though they're still learning the extent of everything, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like nobody knew Susan would be able to at least hold him off and with a final pass out, you know, a Hail Mary, so to speak, guide him through the portal, which he didn't manage to come back out of anyway.
Speaker B:But, yeah.
Speaker E:So happy her nose didn't bleed.
Speaker F:I was waiting for it.
Speaker F:I was waiting for either a nosebleed.
Speaker E:I'm tired of it.
Speaker F:A blood vessel in the eye or like an aneurysm or something.
Speaker F:But, oh, no, like.
Speaker F:Like something.
Speaker F:Or maybe they're saving that for, like, when Gene goes full.
Speaker B:I mean, the only thing that didn't do.
Speaker B:The only thing they didn't do in this film is have Johnny go supernova.
Speaker F:I thought that was coming when he was like, yep, tell Uncle John.
Speaker F:I was like, somebody's not making it out of this.
Speaker F:And then Johnny.
Speaker F:Johnny with the big brain.
Speaker F:Just that.
Speaker F:That.
Speaker F:I like that change because they.
Speaker F:The womanization was implied, but not the focus of his whole character.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker D:Let's see.
Speaker D:That's what I liked about this movie, is that you don't meet them when they're at the apex of their abilities.
Speaker D:You see them still learning everything because it's still new to them.
Speaker D:They don't even know to the extent of what they can do.
Speaker B:Everything.
Speaker B:Everything is almost.
Speaker F:I'll say, because even almost street level.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's extinct.
Speaker D:It's instinctual.
Speaker D:And, you know, what do you do as human beings?
Speaker D:You can only do so much and you recognize that ability, but you don't know how far that can go.
Speaker D:And the same thing with them cosmic rays didn't come with instructions.
Speaker D:It's like the greatest American hero we got.
Speaker D:The suit.
Speaker B:Lost the instructions.
Speaker D:Meanwhile, you bouncing all over the place, flying through the air.
Speaker D:What the hell am I doing?
Speaker D:And I think that's what made it so endearing, because we saw them try so hard to be human instead of superheroes, but still try to combine both worlds.
Speaker D:And they were cracking and it was clashing.
Speaker D:It was genuinely clashing.
Speaker F:Yeah, she definitely was the most tactical because, like, using your powers to magnify his eyes.
Speaker F:So Johnny at least gets a straight shot to blind the man.
Speaker F:I'm like, she's.
Speaker F:They've either been practicing, like, off the clock, or she just.
Speaker F:She's very aware of her abilities more than everyone else, because she was very much.
Speaker F:I won't say battle tested, but she was ready when the moment came, either verbally or physically.
Speaker B:They, they.
Speaker C:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker C:Because I, I, I, I, I'll say.
Speaker F:We've been wait.
Speaker F:We've been waiting for it.
Speaker F:Go ahead.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:So sorry.
Speaker D:Because I got my snacks.
Speaker D:I'm ready.
Speaker C:Y' all are touching on points that I.
Speaker C:That I had already set up.
Speaker C:So, first of all, sue didn't.
Speaker C:Nobody defeated Galactus.
Speaker C:He was paused.
Speaker C:If you were going to say anyone defeated Galactus, it was Shala Ball because she took her whole body and her whole strength and did the final push to get him all the way through that without.
Speaker C:And that was it.
Speaker C:That was her one shot to punch him through that hole.
Speaker C:Sue was super strong in pushing him back, but she wasn't going to be the one to just, like, hit him with the one punch force field and get him through the hole.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Second part of all of this is why I find it troubling.
Speaker C:This is all.
Speaker C:This has been a trouble since the inception of comics and women in comics.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:Why is it so easy to believe?
Speaker C:What is that man's name?
Speaker C:Johnny can pick up a language he's heard maybe once in his life, comb through thousands of other languages, decode it, and then talk to Charlie Ball in her language.
Speaker C:But it's hard to believe that a woman with superhero powers and force field powers can just push a.
Speaker C:Through a hole.
Speaker C:Are you like, how.
Speaker C:I know those are two different skills, but if you can suspend your disbelief for Johnny, I need y' all to work on suspending the disbelief for Sue.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker B:I know, I know.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker B:No, I agree.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's the same.
Speaker B:I think that that comes from the same crowd that when they found out about Shala Ball, it was just like, she's not the Silver Surfer.
Speaker B:And I'm like, yes, yes, she was.
Speaker D:She was the original.
Speaker D:Technically, she was the original Silver Surfer.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And Norin Rad, who we know as the current Silver Surfer, was her husband.
Speaker B:So comics, everybody.
Speaker C:The material's out there.
Speaker F:It was a sister.
Speaker F:Sister tag team for the wing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it was just, you know, they're like, oh, they're gender swapping.
Speaker B:It's not a gender swap.
Speaker B:What was.
Speaker F:What was your counterpoint?
Speaker F:Chaos demon.
Speaker E:Oh, no, I was gonna say counterpoint.
Speaker E:I didn't believe Johnny could do that.
Speaker F:Either, but that was me.
Speaker E:I got a bigger problem with that scene.
Speaker E:It's the fact that Johnny took over all of New York's televisions with something on his watch.
Speaker E:I'm like, what type of CIA technology do y' all have that they just like, look the other way on.
Speaker B:Because that's why.
Speaker F:Well, that's what I was thinking.
Speaker F:I was like, not only.
Speaker F:I'm like, how much does the world trust y'?
Speaker C:All?
Speaker F:Because you just got access to, like, all of basically Times Square.
Speaker F:And, and the entire world is apparently watching this happen because y' all are the only thing on TV right now for people that still have power.
Speaker D:To be fair, they've shown themselves to be the only protectors because they never revealed any other heroes in this, in this particular world.
Speaker F:Maybe that was part of Johnny's brand deal.
Speaker F:Like, hey, you're gonna drive by that, that billboard and light it on fire five times a day.
Speaker F:And in exchange, we'll give you access.
Speaker F:But also Johnny just keeping up the old Fantastic Four lore.
Speaker F:Because remember when Reed had to, like, curse malice out of, like, her brainwashing with, like, toxic masculinity?
Speaker F:And then Johnny was like, all right, here's my trap card.
Speaker F:Accountability.
Speaker B:So I, I, but see, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm with Kieran and the in, in this is.
Speaker B:And this is.
Speaker B:It isn't.
Speaker B:It isn't just this film or this medium.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's like, across the board.
Speaker B:And we know what it is.
Speaker B:It's toxic masculinity needed.
Speaker B:And yeah, like, if you.
Speaker B:These people aren't even real.
Speaker B:I'm just.
Speaker F:That was my whole, you know, when he, when he played all the dying planets.
Speaker F:When he played all the dying planets.
Speaker F:And her reaction was just to, like, hawk girl scream into the camera and then leave.
Speaker F:I laughed a little bit because I just seen Superman.
Speaker F:And I was like, what's with the screaming?
Speaker F:Close ups with, like, the full show of teeth.
Speaker F:She just, like, panic yelled and then just dipped.
Speaker F:And I'm like, okay.
Speaker B:I guess she had to recollect her actions.
Speaker B:She had to be held accountable for.
Speaker B:Like, she didn't just come here by.
Speaker F:Herself, expecting it to drag out.
Speaker F:Like, no, stop.
Speaker F:And he just keeps playing voices.
Speaker F:She just said, nope.
Speaker F:Panic, yell, and full flee.
Speaker F:She has flee.
Speaker F:Like a Pokemon battle.
Speaker F:When you did.
Speaker F:When the ball didn't land, it was what the furl.
Speaker B:I mean, she, she sacrificed herself to be his herald, to save her planet in return to give him other planets to feed.
Speaker B:And all she says, all she pretty much says, oh, here's a planet.
Speaker B:Go over there.
Speaker B:She never sticks around for the aftermath or to.
Speaker B:Or the current anything.
Speaker B:She's just, oh, I gotta go find another spot.
Speaker B:Cause it's gonna be hungry again.
Speaker F:And I mean, you don't feel that in that big Ass ship, or is it just like a speed?
Speaker F:I'm like, yep, we hit another one.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:She's just like, yeah, go over.
Speaker B:He's over there.
Speaker B:I gotta go and find some other stuff because probably another week he's gonna be hungry again.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:She just doesn't stick around.
Speaker B:And I think her being faced with that, which is a Ghost Rider type thing to do, which plot armor.
Speaker B:They did it in the cartoon.
Speaker B:That was weird.
Speaker F:To Mayhem's point.
Speaker F:Can y' all learn the lie?
Speaker F:Because could y' all make the trap look less obvious versus everyone?
Speaker F:Like, why are you standing there holding the switch?
Speaker F:You could.
Speaker F:You can stretch.
Speaker F:You could literally be around the corner.
Speaker F:And then now, like, what?
Speaker F:Y' all got the baby on the platform with the four pillars all looking at him, like, just a little.
Speaker F:I'm like, y' all didn't think he was gonna.
Speaker F:The man could see a baby before it was born.
Speaker F:You didn't think he was gonna figure this out?
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker D:Let's see.
Speaker D:And I think that's the appeal of this, though.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker D:And that probably that's why I. I had such a kinship with this particular film.
Speaker D:Because, again, they're facing a threat that they've never experienced.
Speaker D:They've got abilities that they still don't know much about.
Speaker D:All they have is their brains.
Speaker D:So what we may consider a tactical error may not be so obvious to those particular characters in the way it's created.
Speaker D:So, you know, I'm expecting all of these massive amounts of errors, but I think what I appreciate is the ability, desire to try.
Speaker D:Just think on the fly, considering the circumstance.
Speaker B:I'm glad so far I mentioned the baby, which is Franklin Richards.
Speaker B:It's really no teaser, because they even threw it in the film.
Speaker B:Like, she's pregnant, having a baby.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And Franklin Richards, he's a different type of kid.
Speaker B:And we're not just talking about the baby, but he's a different type of kid.
Speaker B:But he's very much a child.
Speaker B:Well, he's more of a teenager now.
Speaker B:But, like, this man creates pocket worlds.
Speaker C:Are we talking about the movie or the comics?
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The comics version of Franklin.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I was like, wait, what?
Speaker B:Not really sure what this version of Franklin can do yet.
Speaker B:I don't know if they're gonna.
Speaker B:I don't want to say opium, because when they make him that way in the comics, it's not really op.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker E:It's already there.
Speaker D:Yeah, we just didn't see him glow and flash.
Speaker G:All we all.
Speaker B:All we've seen is he brought his mom back.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:He brought.
Speaker B:He brought Susan back from the brink of death with.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker E:Not the brink of death.
Speaker D:So we saw Franklin with.
Speaker B:With the power of love.
Speaker D:We saw Franklin become the world's first human defibrillator.
Speaker E:The camera back a little further.
Speaker E:We just seen Aubrey pra.
Speaker E:Just standing there like.
Speaker F:Yeah, even then it is like.
Speaker F:It is Three Men and a baby moment.
Speaker F:Because why are y' all putting this infant on this corpse?
Speaker F:Like, I was like, I get it.
Speaker F:It literally preludes the car seat scene because another woman would have been like, how about.
Speaker F:No, Any other woman in New York would have been like, how about we don't.
Speaker F:Even though it was a life saving tactic, no one was there to.
Speaker F:It was.
Speaker F:All three of them going.
Speaker F:Seemed like a good idea.
Speaker B:They were all.
Speaker B:They were all in subterranean.
Speaker B:Cuz thanks to my old man.
Speaker B:He, you know, thanks to Susan in moment he's just like, we need to get everybody out of here.
Speaker B:Can we shift him down there to you for a little bit?
Speaker F:Like I knew what he was gonna do.
Speaker F:And then imagine being an infant and getting called a liar before you're born.
Speaker F:That's just crazy.
Speaker F:He's not even up.
Speaker F:He's not even here.
Speaker F:He hides from you like he's still in there.
Speaker D:What do you mean he hides his true nature.
Speaker B:So before we go to break, what's.
Speaker B:What's everybody's rating for Fantastic Four?
Speaker B:First steps, Lady Mandalore.
Speaker C:Same as Superman.
Speaker C:Eight.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:Mayhem.
Speaker E:Yeah, Solid eight.
Speaker E:That was.
Speaker E:That was.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's far.
Speaker F:I go eight and a half just because it's a lot of sciency stuff.
Speaker F:And I get it.
Speaker F:Every.
Speaker F:A lot of people aren't going to take to that too well.
Speaker F:They're very much playing into the whole era of what the Fantastic Four is.
Speaker F:And I get A lot of people won't get that.
Speaker F:So yeah, it was good for what it was.
Speaker F:And I.
Speaker F:But I get it.
Speaker F:A lot of people aren't gonna.
Speaker F:What?
Speaker F:What did I miss?
Speaker F:What did he do now?
Speaker B:It's the comment section.
Speaker D:I've learned to look down.
Speaker G:I look down.
Speaker D:I will not have myself.
Speaker E:People are playing into the whole.
Speaker E:That was a bad place to pause.
Speaker F:Playing into every aspect of the Fantastic Four.
Speaker F:Not just cry.
Speaker F:Pretty like so.
Speaker F:And I get it.
Speaker F:People aren't gonna.
Speaker F:Are gonna take to the whole sciency bits and just get to the fights.
Speaker F:But that's not what they're about.
Speaker F:But I'll.
Speaker F:I'll give them that score for that.
Speaker B:Okay, Navy, 9.5.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I say eight and a half myself.
Speaker B:I. I liked it.
Speaker B:A lot of action, a lot of sciency stuff, because I read a lot of Fantastic Four anyway.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You learn to get past certain things because it's not like you would understand it anyway.
Speaker B:But just wait till Valeria shows up.
Speaker F:The end credit scene could have done more like.
Speaker F:I was expecting a face reveal.
Speaker F:A turn.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker F:Or either.
Speaker F:Or at least.
Speaker F:At least either very serious or very casual.
Speaker F:Oh, it's just Victor.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They are dragging crumbs.
Speaker B:They are dragged.
Speaker B:They're going to drag you.
Speaker F:It just feels like it was perfect.
Speaker D:In the way they did it was.
Speaker F:Perfect in the way you think so because I was like, why give us that?
Speaker F:Like, we know.
Speaker D:You don't need to know everything.
Speaker D:You need the hints to make it.
Speaker E:They also.
Speaker E:They were not paying Robert Downey Jr. To turn to the camera.
Speaker E:That was Tony from Crafts.
Speaker F:That was.
Speaker C:That was.
Speaker F:That was Tony Stank in.
Speaker F:In the.
Speaker F:That was.
Speaker F:That was one of the extras on stage from Hall H. When they revealed him last year.
Speaker C:I. I think.
Speaker C:I think that was Agatha.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna sit back and just let that.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:I mean, they were holding the mask, so who knows?
Speaker F:I thought Franklin was, like, fixing his face or something, but I think.
Speaker C:I think Franklin was brushing away a tear.
Speaker B:We don't know.
Speaker E:Little child.
Speaker F:I'm curious if that is a current Fantastic Four ship we saw in Thunderbolts or if that is a.
Speaker F:From then.
Speaker F:Because it's the.
Speaker F:The ship is already more developed.
Speaker F:But I'm like, are there.
Speaker F:Is there timeline.
Speaker F:Current with ours?
Speaker F: Or is there: Speaker F: or: Speaker F: Are: Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker F:It's like.
Speaker F:Because what I picked up on is basically how they talked about, like, hey, we did that one thing.
Speaker F:And I, like, Reed basically wouldn't admit I do not want to go back into space.
Speaker F:I did this to us.
Speaker F:This is all my fault.
Speaker F:And he kind of held on to that.
Speaker F:So they, like, now that they have a second ship that's actually prepped, I'm like, clearly someone stole it.
Speaker F:And either either y' all ran away or someone took your kid and ran.
Speaker F:But I'm curious because we still need a way to age up all these children.
Speaker F:They did it with Billy and Tommy.
Speaker F:I'm curious.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm sure by the time they get to.
Speaker B:I mean, you see how they aged up.
Speaker B:Franklin, they.
Speaker B:They really didn't waste a lot of time.
Speaker F:I'm curious if, like, it's been years since the ending of this movie that that ship pops up in thunderbolts and we see teenage Franklin and then.
Speaker F:Or something happens and then sue probably has to be the one to stop everybody from killing each other.
Speaker B:No, it's.
Speaker B:It's definitely a.
Speaker C:Like at least five years.
Speaker C:It's been at least five years.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:On.
Speaker B:On their earth on there.
Speaker B:But it's definitely.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:Is it.
Speaker B:It's parallel with ours?
Speaker B:Yeah, because.
Speaker B:Because it's not.
Speaker B:It's not 616.
Speaker B:It's 828.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:But it is parallel to 616.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because right now their culture shock is going to be.
Speaker F:Yeah, because we got the Billy.
Speaker F:We got Billy and Tommy to magically be teens.
Speaker F:I'm curious to what the age up's gonna be for young t' Challa and baby Franklin.
Speaker B:But we are gonna come.
Speaker B:We're gonna go to break.
Speaker B:We'll be right back.
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Speaker B:Why this was such a quiet release, but why was it such a damn hit?
Speaker B:We'll be right back.
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Speaker B:But the animation is great, the writing is fantastic, and there's a nice little homage to our very own Chadwick Boseman attached to this.
Speaker B:But for those who don't know, Isaac, Wakando is not about Wakanda itself.
Speaker B:It's more about the War Dogs that were sent out in different, different period time periods to recovers the stolen artifacts of Vibranium.
Speaker B:And they really went.
Speaker B:They went in.
Speaker B:So we're not going to break it down episode by episode.
Speaker B:I don't have those details in front of me, but I want to know the thoughts, your thought processes for the War Dogs throughout history.
Speaker B:Mayhem.
Speaker B:We'll start with you.
Speaker E:One.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker E:The show, overall, I feel like they got away from the.
Speaker E:The animation style from what if?
Speaker E:Because even though I liked what if that it just never quite set in with me that I like this.
Speaker E:I know that I like this.
Speaker E:This looks much cleaner, sharper, just overall better to my eyeballs.
Speaker E:And I love that the.
Speaker E:The whole theme of everything was, was the danger of Wakanda and their isolationist.
Speaker B:Nests.
Speaker E:How that, how that impacts the.
Speaker E:Their people once they leave Wakanda, how that impacts the rest of the world by them.
Speaker E:You know, I guess hoarding might not be quite the right word, but for lack of better word, hoarding their technology and, and their knowledge.
Speaker E:I thought it was, like you said, too short.
Speaker E:Hollywood.
Speaker F:4.
Speaker E:Four episodes is not a season.
Speaker E:They don't need to be hour long.
Speaker E:They can all be 30 minutes.
Speaker E:But if it's not 10, it's not a season.
Speaker E:You gotta call it an EP or something.
Speaker E:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, he's right for it.
Speaker B:4 is way too short.
Speaker B:I mean, they're giving us these, these standalone story.
Speaker B:Well, in this case, they didn't really stand alone, but they stood alone and there was.
Speaker B:I don't force.
Speaker B:Just not enough.
Speaker B:I wanted more.
Speaker B:You know, I like what they did with it, but I'm like, I need more now because you're telling a side that isn't really talked about.
Speaker B:You're telling a side of what kind of.
Speaker B:That really isn't talked about and what is.
Speaker B:What is really shown is the War Dogs side of everything.
Speaker B:All of their stories tend to be the same, even from the Film to.
Speaker B:From the films to the animation, there's this.
Speaker B:We are sent out to make sure nothing happens to our land, to our country, to our technology, only for them to realize there's more to the world.
Speaker B:You know, I get why they're not open there, whether borders are open now, but.
Speaker B:And see how that turned out.
Speaker B:But I get why they didn't want to open the borders.
Speaker B:Because you're inviting some of the wrong elements, maybe.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker D:I swear, I'm looking at.
Speaker B:I'm looking at show calls.
Speaker D:It was like, keeping a straight face.
Speaker G:Is never easy around here.
Speaker B:It's not supposed to be.
Speaker B:It was show quotes.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I actually read that out loud.
Speaker D:I. I enjoyed it for the most part, but I'm with.
Speaker D:You know, I'm with mayhem.
Speaker D:I feel like the animation style was.
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker D:I think the style is what brings you in, and it didn't really grab me.
Speaker D:I think there were a few things during those four episodes that I really appreciate, especially seeing the.
Speaker D:The.
Speaker D:The Iron Fist.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Reference, which really excited me.
Speaker D:I was like, okay, I. I appreciated that, but I'm genuinely going to.
Speaker D:I actually want to look at it all over again and.
Speaker D:And see what I didn't mean, what I pick up, what I missed.
Speaker B:That's far.
Speaker F:Well, first of all, you're welcome.
Speaker F:Sacred timeline saved.
Speaker F:Even though I very much won.
Speaker F:Whoever.
Speaker F:Because I know they're not gonna make.
Speaker F:I know they're not gonna make it.
Speaker F:So I need one of y' all to borrow the concept of the Wakandan caps and do rags from the Iron Fist episode.
Speaker F:That's the first thing.
Speaker D:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:Here we go.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker F:Tell me.
Speaker F:Hey.
Speaker F:Everybody was like, war dogs is one thing, but everybody's chilling out and relaxing like it's the YMCA off mission.
Speaker F:But I. I like the concept.
Speaker F:Even when Killmonger was like, oh, our war dogs are finishing, I was kind of like, oh, we got two people in every country.
Speaker F:And I'm like, oh, this is what he means.
Speaker B:Because, I mean, we're in the day.
Speaker F:In Troy with Wakanda Neopor.
Speaker F:And that is, like, closing wounds.
Speaker B:Instant.
Speaker F:Little kicker thing was.
Speaker B:Oh, his communicator.
Speaker F:Yeah, his little Morse code device.
Speaker E:And then he had a sidekick.
Speaker F:He had.
Speaker F:He had Wakandan sidekicks and Neosport.
Speaker G:Neo to go, like, sidekick.
Speaker B:I can dig it.
Speaker B:I can dig it.
Speaker F:And then T Mobile has not.
Speaker G:T Mobile has an advertising opportunity right there.
Speaker D:No, it was the Nokia Wakanda.
Speaker D:That's what it is.
Speaker F:It went through multiple wars.
Speaker F:It didn't break.
Speaker B:So, I mean, yeah, Nokia's never did break.
Speaker F:How did you hide the entire whole arm sleeve for a decade, though?
Speaker F:How did nobody ever catch you using that?
Speaker F:But the whole Troy episode was very dope.
Speaker F:I wish everybody would stop calling that, man.
Speaker F:LeBron James is looking like.
Speaker F:I get the.
Speaker F:That's what everybody kept the dude, the one who had to kill.
Speaker G:Achilles.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker G:I love the fact that it was tied to Achilles.
Speaker G:It was always the ankles.
Speaker F:I was just like, there's no way he's gonna kill him.
Speaker F:The second he went full white, man, it was like, this is coming back to Greece.
Speaker F:I'm like, yep, you gotta go.
Speaker F:So, like, he's like.
Speaker F:He saw, like, we already are fighting wars and want to go home.
Speaker F:The second he's like, I'm taking this.
Speaker F:I'm like, you don't know what it is.
Speaker F:I'm like, yeah, he's not making it out of here.
Speaker B:See, but.
Speaker B:And that was.
Speaker B:And Mayhem made a good suggestion, and I actually seen that suggestion somewhere else.
Speaker B:And Mark Bernardin, who wrote the episode, actually spoke on it.
Speaker B:That episode.
Speaker B:Would you really go back and look at.
Speaker B:Came off more like.
Speaker B:It came there.
Speaker B:It came off differently.
Speaker B:He said, no, it's more like a love story.
Speaker B:Like, Achilles, like.
Speaker B:Like, came off more like a love story.
Speaker B:Like, why are you protecting this outsider?
Speaker B:We don't know who he is.
Speaker B:And he's looking over his shoulder and he's in.
Speaker B:Achilles is protecting him, like.
Speaker B:And he's giving him a look like, I got it.
Speaker B:Don't worry, you know?
Speaker F:And then he's out of line.
Speaker F:But he's right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and he's like, I'll.
Speaker B:I'll always.
Speaker B:You're my brother.
Speaker B:And this, that, and the other.
Speaker B:And even when they came to blows and he had to kill Achilles, he.
Speaker G:Was still holding back.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was just like, I don't want to do this, but now I'm torn between my country and taking you out because I have a job to do.
Speaker E:I want to go home.
Speaker B:I want to go home.
Speaker F:And then I have been eating uncooked and unseasoned stuff by the campfire on these smelly ass.
Speaker C:Wait a minute.
Speaker C:Hold on, hold on now.
Speaker C:The Greeks.
Speaker C:The Greeks, they.
Speaker C:They got something.
Speaker C:Hold on.
Speaker C:They got seasons.
Speaker F:The Greeks on the ships, though.
Speaker G:The Greeks.
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker C:People that are literally a stone throws away from Africa.
Speaker C:I promise you, we.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:We exchange some.
Speaker C:They know.
Speaker F:I figured they were.
Speaker F:I figured they weren't getting home cooking, traveling all the time to pillage other places that's my.
Speaker F:I'm not saying they can't cook.
Speaker F:I'm saying in his scenario, he probably was not exposed to the best of cuisine.
Speaker G:I say otherwise because I've seen.
Speaker G:I've seen what they.
Speaker G:I think I've seen the decisions Greek make.
Speaker C:So it's like, that's different from cooking.
Speaker G:Your decisions also include your culinary.
Speaker G:I hold everybody accountable.
Speaker F:I think the show was good.
Speaker F:I like the Iron Fist episode because even in the beginning, I was like, why didn't you just take the.
Speaker F:The tongue out of the.
Speaker F:Which ends up being the whole answer to the thing.
Speaker F:I very much shout out, Gary Anthony Williams, be Uncle Ruckus is now Wakandan.
Speaker F:And somebody else was in that episode.
Speaker F:His name.
Speaker F:I'm blanking on, but seeing.
Speaker F:Seeing a dope.
Speaker F:Our first.
Speaker F:Our oldest Iron Fist originally, technically wish we would have got a little bit more of the.
Speaker F:The Dragon fight, but hopefully in the future.
Speaker B:She got hands.
Speaker B:I'll tell you that much, man.
Speaker F:Also, I need Marvel Rivals or Helldivers.
Speaker F:One of y' all gotta give me that.
Speaker F:That futuristic Wakandan queen outfit because they went full Helldivers.
Speaker B:I will say this.
Speaker B:When I seen the outfit first show up, and I'm like, okay, number one, I know that's a queen, but it's not the queens that I know of because there's a.
Speaker B:Like, in the past, there's like three different Black Panther queens over time.
Speaker B:I'm like, but that's not none of the queens I know.
Speaker B:I don't know who that is.
Speaker B:And I was like, it's not Sherry.
Speaker B:I'm like, so who is it?
Speaker G:Unless.
Speaker G:Unless it's, you know, I thought was crazy.
Speaker G:This is just a shot in the dark.
Speaker B:What if the.
Speaker G:What if the person pretty much describing their own birth in the future.
Speaker G:The reason why.
Speaker G:The reason why.
Speaker G:I know.
Speaker G:The reason why.
Speaker G:I know she's having a girl.
Speaker G:I'm just saying it could be talking to your long lost relative.
Speaker G:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker F:And then I think she's from a different tribe than t' Challa's family.
Speaker F:So I think we are the.
Speaker F:The mantle and the ownership of the country has switched a few times since.
Speaker B:It has over.
Speaker B:Over time.
Speaker B:It has.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker F:Because.
Speaker F:Because.
Speaker B:Because that character and it's just T's bloodline held it the longest.
Speaker F:If they had another episode, I would have liked to see Changing of Hands at challenge day and.
Speaker F:And seeing which families ruled during which eras and how the War Dogs kind of responded.
Speaker F:But I kind of like the fake out in the first episode showing, okay, here's what one Wakandan that goes rogue can do.
Speaker F:But also, the hammer is the first thing they lose.
Speaker F:And I'm like, that's the same thing they find.
Speaker F:It's like, nope, not that one.
Speaker F:This fourth episode is actually the hammer, which then Killmonger goes to fine and sets everything into place, because if we don't play nice, then the Earth is basically doomed, but save y' all asses all the time.
Speaker G:So it wasn't that crazy storytelling, that everything was tied to the nexus point of Killmonger.
Speaker B:It had to happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That first episode, which was the, the rogue Wakanda and Noni, who was one of the Dora Milaje.
Speaker B:Now, this is why I like the animation.
Speaker B:Because if you see a lot of.
Speaker B:Of our brothers and sisters from the Homeland, they have a certain look.
Speaker B:And, and that was the, that was the look.
Speaker B:I was like, that's why.
Speaker B:Okay, I can rock with it now.
Speaker B:It put me at ease.
Speaker B:I was like, I wonder why.
Speaker B:This was an interesting choice of animation.
Speaker B:Now, again, you know.
Speaker B:So Lady Mandalore, I want to know, what did you think?
Speaker B:Four episodes.
Speaker B:Which was your favorite?
Speaker C:Number three was my favorite.
Speaker C:The Iron Fist episode.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, that was, that was Hot Fire.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Overall, I, I was.
Speaker C:I'm okay with it being four episodes.
Speaker C:I'm tight.
Speaker C:It had to be the Black Show.
Speaker C:That had to be four episodes.
Speaker D:Episodes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But I'm okay with it being four episodes because they told a tight story.
Speaker C:There's no room for.
Speaker B:Thanks to Mark Bernardin.
Speaker C:In part to Mark.
Speaker C:He only did episodes two and three.
Speaker B:Two and three.
Speaker B:And they were tight.
Speaker C:Were the best episodes.
Speaker B:Yeah, they were tight.
Speaker C:But I, I, I liked the fact that you didn't have to do all this grand overture in order to connect back to Killmonger.
Speaker C:I like that they had the, they had four pieces that they needed to get back, and those were the four stories.
Speaker C:Because if you lose 20 pieces of Wakandan, you know, material, you could be.
Speaker B:Like, what the hell y' all doing?
Speaker C:That is a major problem on your hands.
Speaker C:That's not just the lapse insecurity.
Speaker C:That's an inside job.
Speaker B:Because that's what you'd be like, what are y' all doing?
Speaker B:Why does, how does this keep getting away?
Speaker B:Like, who's doing it?
Speaker G:No, who's watching the vault to where all this?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:It just makes sense.
Speaker C:Well, that, and that's where you get the.
Speaker C:Or you have the claw going back in time and doing everything or getting everything.
Speaker C:But I, I really Liked.
Speaker C:God damn.
Speaker C:I wanted.
Speaker C:I wanted a whole real season of this.
Speaker C:However, this was so good.
Speaker C:This was a 10 out of 10 for me.
Speaker C:I'm fine with it being four and them giving us something else.
Speaker C:Another point of either another point of view or another ass.
Speaker C:I guess that's aspect is the same thing of Wakanda.
Speaker B:I would go for it if.
Speaker B:If that's the route day, if that's the recipe they use, I would.
Speaker B:I would gladly go for that.
Speaker C:Like you can.
Speaker C:The door's not closed on the history of Wakanda.
Speaker C:This is just one aspect of their entire history.
Speaker C:Like fast.
Speaker C:We can go back to prehistoric times.
Speaker C:We didn't.
Speaker C:We have not touched any of that.
Speaker D:We have history, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Navy or no Spartan, what did you think of Ice Wakanda?
Speaker B:What was your favorite episode?
Speaker G:Loved it.
Speaker G:Too short.
Speaker G:Should have actually been eight episodes.
Speaker F:Still.
Speaker G:My favorite is the Iron Fist episode.
Speaker G:Only because it.
Speaker G:Only because of the characters involved and the fact of, again, like Tafara said, they didn't really go into it.
Speaker G:I think that was the first Iron Fist.
Speaker G:My.
Speaker G:My money is because the first Iron Fist was a woman.
Speaker G:So that's why I'm like, that's the first introduction of Iron Fist there.
Speaker G:At the same time it did kind of.
Speaker G:If anybody was paying attention, it connected the other two episodes.
Speaker G:You saw the mass from the first one, you saw the.
Speaker G:You saw the jewel also in that same room.
Speaker G:And then of course going in episode four explains that every one of these things tie to a certain point in history.
Speaker G:So yeah, three was my favorite, but overall, completely loved it.
Speaker G:Should have been longer.
Speaker G:I think that four episodes is a travesty.
Speaker G:But you know, we also didn't get advertising either.
Speaker B:So we'll talk about that in a second Navy.
Speaker D:I will piggyback off of Lady Mandalore.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:The four episodes was perfect.
Speaker D:I like the way it presented itself.
Speaker D:I like the animation style.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker D:It'll grow on you.
Speaker D:But I genuinely enjoyed it.
Speaker D:It was the right length to tell the tale, but still leave a door open for other iterations for other interconnecting stories that have yet to be connected to that particular Nexus.
Speaker D:And I'm beyond excited to see where it goes.
Speaker D:And episode three was my favorite too.
Speaker F:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker D:Because I'm.
Speaker D:I'm an old school Iron Fist fan.
Speaker D:Heroes for hire.
Speaker D:When you see.
Speaker D:You see him and Luke Cage, anytime I see the proper representation of that character, I'm happy.
Speaker D:Definitely give this a 10 out of 10.
Speaker B:I. I'm with you.
Speaker B:I'm, I'm saying this is a 10 out of 10, but it might.
Speaker B:As a matter of fact, Proximity Media is also behind this, this great show.
Speaker B:Shout out to the Cooglers behind this whole thing.
Speaker F:That's a cool.
Speaker F:That's a cougar quadruple at this point.
Speaker B:This man is on fire this year, and I love it.
Speaker C:The consistency for me, ladies and gentlemen, that's sort of, that's what gets me every time.
Speaker C:Be consistent.
Speaker B:He got the right team.
Speaker F:You got Afrofuturism.
Speaker F:He's got.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:Afrofuturism covered.
Speaker F:He's got Black Horde Noir covered and then.
Speaker F:Or black Southern Gothic and then real horrors with the Katrina documentary.
Speaker B:And let's not forget the tech stuff, because Ironheart.
Speaker G:Yep.
Speaker B:So the easiest.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He, he's got a broad brush.
Speaker B:The man ain't done.
Speaker B:So, yeah, great show.
Speaker B:10 out of 10.
Speaker B:I, I, I'm with Lady Mandalore with the.
Speaker B:I get why they.
Speaker B:It, it makes more sense with the four episodes, although I would like a little more.
Speaker B:But it makes sense when you address it.
Speaker B:Say, this is four episodes.
Speaker B:This is about the War Dogs.
Speaker B:We'll probably do another four episodes in a year, and it's about something else.
Speaker B:And then, you know, the lineage of how this started or whatever.
Speaker C:What if we got the Blue Angels?
Speaker G:Midnight Angels.
Speaker B:You still got.
Speaker B:Yeah, you still got the Midnight Angels.
Speaker B:You got the Priest.
Speaker B:You got the prehistoric Black Panther, who, Who, by the way, controlled Thor's hammer before Odin did.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker F:I think a Koi was in talks to get a series at one point, but then they got X.
Speaker G:Then they scrapped it.
Speaker B:It wasn't.
Speaker G:It was supposed to be a Midnight Angels.
Speaker G:It was supposed to be a Midnight angel series, but they scrapped it.
Speaker F:Okay.
Speaker B:The Coogler have it.
Speaker B:You'll know what to do.
Speaker B:So real quick, ratings for.
Speaker B:Well, we've already got three.
Speaker B:10 out of tens and mayhem.
Speaker B:What do you get again?
Speaker E:Name is something else.
Speaker E:It's not a season.
Speaker E:Is this is a season special presentation or something.
Speaker B:Rebrand it and I'll give it a.
Speaker E:10 out of 10 until then.
Speaker E:9.999.
Speaker F:Oh, really?
Speaker G:You deduct a point because of else presented.
Speaker B:They keep moving the goal post.
Speaker E:I'm like the Russ.
Speaker F:It really was.
Speaker F:It was like, hey, they hit us with us like surprise.
Speaker F:And then, by the way, get this out the way.
Speaker F:I know Spider man is filming today, right?
Speaker F:Like, we ain't film.
Speaker F:We ain't filming like a licking.
Speaker F:We just put the suit on.
Speaker F:We want y' all to know.
Speaker F:Here's nine seconds.
Speaker E:Don't get to it.
Speaker F:Here's nine seconds of a teaser of the new Spider Man.
Speaker G:And that alone was like, I. I agree with Tony.
Speaker G:It's like, just watch Eyes of Condo.
Speaker B:You Spider Man's gonna be there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Safari.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:I'll give it a nine.
Speaker F:Just because, like, I wish it had been longer.
Speaker F:And I wish we had gotten to the third episode was cool.
Speaker F:I wish we'd gotten a little bit more of the internals of Wakanda and how much the war dogs can play into it.
Speaker F:And seeing that there's a whole change of the guard fourth episode, definitely my favorite because how chaotic it got towards the end.
Speaker F:Also, I do like the whole historical accuracy with Ethiopia and that war that took place and placing Wakanda in real.
Speaker F:Shut up.
Speaker F:Placing Wakanda in, like, placing Wakanda in, like, real world aspects and just like, hey, we've been everywhere.
Speaker F:We just here to get our.
Speaker F:Collect our stuff and.
Speaker F:And y' all got the rest.
Speaker F:But seeing a little bit of the future that could have been.
Speaker F:Or I don't know much about the Swarm or the Horde or whatever it was called, but yeah, see, the whole Space Marines moment I kind of liked.
Speaker B:If you really want to know more about the.
Speaker B:The lore of Wakanda or at least the Protectors of Wakanda, go get Protectors of Wakanda by K. It's a great read.
Speaker B:It's a great read and it tells you.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's accurate.
Speaker F:Same.
Speaker F:Same thing I said with the ending of.
Speaker F:What if they needed, like, one more episode to give them.
Speaker F:I feel like there was so much that they had, and they definitely.
Speaker F:A lot of stuff got thrown on the floor.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So here's the thing that we've been noticing lately.
Speaker B:Fantastic Four, fantastic first Steps has underperformed according to studios standards.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Eyes of Wakanda, Ironheart, hardly any push or publicity.
Speaker B:Eisenhower kind of had no push until like the week of.
Speaker B:I believe Ironheart was like maybe two weeks prior or something to that.
Speaker B:To that effect.
Speaker B:And I'm being generous, but why do you think, one.
Speaker B:That some of the Marvel projects underperformed?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I know what Lady Mandalore is going to say, because I agree with her.
Speaker B:But the one.
Speaker B:The projects we've seen this year aren't.
Speaker B:Aren't they.
Speaker B:They haven't been.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:In my opinion, it's not superhero fatigue.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:That's far from that's far from the parkours.
Speaker B:We've been getting superhero movies long before this.
Speaker B:It's not fatigue, like in that sense.
Speaker B:I think ever since.
Speaker B:I want to say ever since what's.
Speaker B:What came out first.
Speaker B:Captain America or Falcon and Winter Soldier, which was not a bad show.
Speaker B:I think Secret Invasion was after that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think since Secret Invasion.
Speaker B:And then there's this.
Speaker B:There's this Love and Thunder.
Speaker B:Love and Thunder is another one.
Speaker B:There's this.
Speaker B:Everybody's.
Speaker B:I keep seeing people want to measure it up to end game.
Speaker B:And I'm like, do you not understand how storytelling works?
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:You get to this peak and then you start over.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You have to start over.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Not every project is going to be praised.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:Like Thor, the Dark World was not the strongest of the Thor films.
Speaker B:And now Love and Thunder is the weakest of those four.
Speaker G:Thor, the Dark World should have been an example of.
Speaker G:You should have done more gun.
Speaker B:More gun.
Speaker G:Writing on lesser known villains and bringing them to the forefront.
Speaker G:Because the Dark Elves.
Speaker G:Unless you are a fan of Thor and you've read unworthy Thor and you've read when he was the King.
Speaker G:When he was literally the King of Valhalla, unless you've read those, you're not gonna know the Dark Elves.
Speaker B:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker B:Battle.
Speaker B:He said they wrote themselves in corn.
Speaker B:And I believe Kevin Feige has even said this.
Speaker B:James Gunn has said several things.
Speaker B:He's like, yeah, there's certain things, there's certain projects that they have that they didn't have finished scripts.
Speaker G:But there were warning signs.
Speaker G:They were warning signs before.
Speaker G:Before, there were warning signs for Age of Ultron.
Speaker G:I'll even go so far as before that there were literally.
Speaker G:There were warning signs.
Speaker G:And you.
Speaker G:It's like, it's like, don't go to the cabin.
Speaker G:The killer is waiting for you.
Speaker G:As you're literally on the interstate heading to the cabin, every sign is saying, don't go to the cabin.
Speaker G:And you still go to the cabin and are surprised when the killer is right there to kill you.
Speaker G:You ignored every warning on the way up and you hope that your brand would carry you.
Speaker G:Unfortunately, it did not.
Speaker B:And I think the other issue is.
Speaker B:I think the other issue is you stopped having people in the same room and reading the comics because you cannot do A, B and C. You can't get to A through D without B and C. You, you just.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:James Gunn has said it on record where he said when he was writing Guardians of the Galaxy, he didn't want the Guardians appearing in Other projects.
Speaker B:And it wasn't that.
Speaker B:It was like, you're gonna mess up a lot of stuff because.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, it worked when they had Thor and they show up in Love and Thunder, but they're only in there with, like, five minutes.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:You know, and so it makes sense because he was with them when we last seen them.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker B:But to have them in every iteration of a Marvel project would not have worked because you're doing.
Speaker B:You're done.
Speaker B:It's too much.
Speaker B:You're dumping too much.
Speaker B:He's like, I have a story I'm trying to tell.
Speaker B:I have a beginning, middle, and end, and I need to tell it.
Speaker B:You know, yes, we can use them over here.
Speaker B:Yes, you can use them over here, but I don't need them popping up every.
Speaker G:And then you're caught, and then your continuity went out the window.
Speaker B:Yeah, man.
Speaker B:What do you think?
Speaker B:Why do you think some of these projects underperform Love and.
Speaker B:Well, we know why Love Thunder performed.
Speaker B:But Fantastic Four Thunderbolts, which, once again, both films, great films.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker E:Before I get to, like, why they underperformed, I just wanted to touch on, like, the.
Speaker E:The marketing and.
Speaker E:And I'm guessing, like, this is their last year before they.
Speaker E:They're supposed to scale back.
Speaker E:Right?
Speaker E:So, like, yeah, we've gotten how many shows and movies this year?
Speaker E:And it felt like there's.
Speaker E:There's a weird anxious energy around certain projects of, like, forcing it into promotion.
Speaker E:And then other projects, they're like, well, no one's actually going to come out and.
Speaker E:And really invest in this, so we're not going to spend our time.
Speaker E:Those being I heart Ironheart and Aizawakanda, they're just like, the week of will be like, yay.
Speaker E:Remember this Ryan Coogler guy?
Speaker C:He.
Speaker E:He did this.
Speaker E:He's attached.
Speaker E:Kinda.
Speaker E:Yep.
Speaker E:Him.
Speaker B:And why.
Speaker B:And why that does bring in the viewers.
Speaker B:That shouldn't be why that brings in the viewers.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker E:But, like, this is.
Speaker E:I say the.
Speaker E:The weird marketing energy started, as I can recall, with Thunderbolts, because when that asterisk first popped up, everyone was just like, oh, that's weird.
Speaker E:I'm sure that'll be explained at some point.
Speaker E:And then you go see the movie and you understand it's explained in the movie.
Speaker E:And I feel like word of mouth could have gotten like, hey, not only is this a good movie and interesting, like, you'll find out what that's about.
Speaker E:Monday morning.
Speaker E:They blew the plot like, like they couldn't wait to.
Speaker E:To open the Avengers to try and Drive people to the theater.
Speaker E:And I think it had a reverse reaction.
Speaker E:And the same with Fantastic Four almost they over saturated.
Speaker E:I feel like Fantastic Four was on Tuesday.
Speaker B:They had a great, they had a.
Speaker E:Great promotion run boxes and popcorn buckets and everything.
Speaker E:And like everyone that's still hyper invested went week one and then, I don't know, we've gotten into this weird thing where like everyone casuals start watching box Office and like that week two box office return didn't hit the way they expected.
Speaker E:Like, oh, it must not be that good.
Speaker E:I think I'm gonna wait till Disney plus because that's going to be in like 45 days it seems like anyway.
Speaker B:And what, and what did I say about people in short attention spans earlier?
Speaker B:Go see the show, go watch the film, go.
Speaker B:It's, it's.
Speaker B:But when we talk about shows like the marketing, like shows like with Ironheart, which is a great, well written show.
Speaker B:Was it six episodes or.
Speaker G:Yeah, six.
Speaker B:Six episodes.
Speaker B:And it tells this story in this narrative.
Speaker B:And, and the first thing people were jumping on about.
Speaker B:And back to Lady Mandalore's point, you can't find it.
Speaker B:You can find it believable to have Tony Stark building his stuff in the cave, but you find it hard to find this young black girl who can reverse engineer it and build her own version.
Speaker D:That part.
Speaker B:And that's a problem for you, for white people, mind you, this is the same show Blurs.
Speaker B:Have you that told y', all, go watch the Marvels, you won't be disappointed.
Speaker B:And here.
Speaker B:And what, what happened?
Speaker B:People actually watched the Marvels when they hit Disney plus and they all said the same thing.
Speaker B:Oh, it's not as bad as we thought it was.
Speaker G:When they got past, as we told y', all, when they got past the whole women can't.
Speaker G:Women can't sell.
Speaker G:And you did an awful lot female cast.
Speaker G:Once y' all finally drop the red pill stuff and actually watch the movie.
Speaker C:It'S a good, it's good.
Speaker C:Is it a 10?
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker B:But it's still worth watching and it's definitely worth watching.
Speaker F:Y definitely tried to.
Speaker F:They tried to set ne the Costa before the movie even came out.
Speaker F:Like, oh, she moved on to other projects.
Speaker F:It's like you're not supposed to be there for that much of the post game.
Speaker F:She left after the job.
Speaker F:Y' all also gave her like a TV show, a movie and like two post credit scenes.
Speaker F:And then remember that old episode of Pokemon where Team Rocket kidnapped Brock and gave him like scraps and was like, make some food out of this.
Speaker F:And he did it.
Speaker F:That was basically what they did to her.
Speaker G:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And then, and then.
Speaker B:And if you know how films and shows are shot, there's a window that needs me.
Speaker B:Like, she's, she's doing a job.
Speaker B:She's been hired to do another job.
Speaker B:Stuff runs over.
Speaker B:She's like, I can't be there for the red carpet.
Speaker B:I'm filming this.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So like, like the whole red pill.
Speaker B:I'm glad we're getting past red pill stuff because I haven't heard a lot of it.
Speaker B:But still there's.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:There's still an air of it, you know.
Speaker G:But my, my thing has always been the numbers.
Speaker G:I'm like, you guys, this lets me know that people don't follow economy.
Speaker G:No.
Speaker B:The economics.
Speaker G:I'm sorry, Economics.
Speaker G:They don't follow it because the numbers that you wanted to happen so bad, there was this little thing called Covet and pretty much halted everything.
Speaker B:So Covet put a stopper in everything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Covid changed a lot of the way things.
Speaker D:A lot of things that we do that were normal before actually.
Speaker G:And, and that's the thing about it.
Speaker G:When Covet happened, what happened?
Speaker G:DC made a deal about having having their movies streamed directly to.
Speaker G:To their streaming service instead of movies.
Speaker G:So what happened?
Speaker G:People stayed home, started watching movies at home.
Speaker G:Marvel had their little bit where they couldn't get things off the ground.
Speaker G:Again.
Speaker G:Things went up because of certain idiots.
Speaker G:The numbers that, the numbers that were there Post that was pre covered are not going to come back post Covet.
Speaker G:So when I read and it's like, oh, well, well, well, Thunderbolts did bad.
Speaker G:No, Thunderbolts turned a profit.
Speaker B:Did it?
Speaker G:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes, they did.
Speaker B:Thunderbirds.
Speaker B:Thunderbolt trying to profit.
Speaker B:Superman is trying to.
Speaker B:All these movies.
Speaker C:All these movies.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker G:My personal favorite not to cut you off was Sinners.
Speaker G:They try to say sinners didn't turn a profit.
Speaker F:That's where it started.
Speaker F:That's where it started.
Speaker F:It started with the pocket watching because what is it?
Speaker F:Second week drop off is now the new.
Speaker F:How many players on Steam.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they, they've gone.
Speaker B:They've taken that.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:That term was not a thing before Variety started talking and they got chin checked.
Speaker B:And I used to respect Variety until they said that they got real weird with.
Speaker B:I'm like, yo, it's only had one weekend.
Speaker B:What do you mean?
Speaker G:But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Hollywood Reporter be on some awesome.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:So I promise you, before they wrote that article, they A second the word second week drop off was not as commonplace as it has been for like the last four or five months.
Speaker F:Because now they.
Speaker F:That's every movie scale.
Speaker F:And I'm like, they look good.
Speaker F:Y' all weren't doing this before April, but all of a sudden Sitters came out.
Speaker F:Y' all was pocket watching too heavy.
Speaker F:And now that's.
Speaker F:That's the new metric we're going by.
Speaker F:It was, it was third.
Speaker F:It was, it was Friday premieres, then it became Thursday pre showings.
Speaker F:Now it's second week drop off.
Speaker G:But that's, but that's the problem.
Speaker G:They all want to go by the, the box numbers, the box office numbers of old.
Speaker G:You cannot do that.
Speaker G:You cannot gauge success by previous numbers.
Speaker G:When we didn't have all this stuff that happened beforehand.
Speaker B:Not only that, we don't have the movie runs like we used to.
Speaker B:We have 45 days now.
Speaker B:We used to get a 90.
Speaker F:Yeah, yeah, you're gonna see a movie on day one.
Speaker F:You might miss the pre order for the Steelbook when the, when it drops.
Speaker B:Like Thunderbolts drops later this month.
Speaker G:Yep.
Speaker B:If you just kept a movie like Thunderbolts or like Sinners or Superman, any of them in for their 90 day run, they would do.
Speaker G:They would do the numbers that they wanted so bad.
Speaker F:Honestly, I'm surprised they.
Speaker B:Which they still got.
Speaker B:They still got good numbers.
Speaker B:They all turn every last one of these films.
Speaker C:I don't know about that.
Speaker C:I don't know about that.
Speaker C:I don't think there's that many people like trickling in to make, to warrant that.
Speaker B:But I will say not now.
Speaker B:No, I will say this.
Speaker B:If you did, if.
Speaker G:I will say the numbers would have only come back if you did not have streaming as a backup.
Speaker G:If you literally sat.
Speaker G:If you literally sat there and said, the only place you can see this.
Speaker G:Because now everybody's like, no, it's gonna come.
Speaker G:It's gonna come to Paramount, it's gonna come to hbo.
Speaker G:Max, it's gonna come Netflix.
Speaker G:It's going to come to Amazon, it's going to come to Apple tv.
Speaker B:We're just gonna wait.
Speaker G:And that's what a lot of people are doing.
Speaker G:They're sitting there saying, I don't have to watch this right now.
Speaker G:I just have to wait my time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker G:Thumbs up, right?
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:I was like, how fast?
Speaker F:How fast they blew the whistle.
Speaker F:I thought thunderbolts was gonna slowly reach green but not do it.
Speaker F:I didn't know they'd actually cross their mark.
Speaker F:So I'm like, y', all, y', all, y'.
Speaker F:All could have just let Stitch burst through the thing and let that ride for, like a month, and that would have been fine.
Speaker F:Why did y', all, like, y' all had that ready on Monday?
Speaker F:Like I just saw.
Speaker F:I haven't been.
Speaker F:The film ain't 48 hours old yet, and we already ripping the stickers off.
Speaker B:And, and that's, that's why there was, There was a time when Captain America Civil War dropped.
Speaker B:And when that movie dropped, that airplane scene was not talked about for well over two weeks.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:No one spoiled it.
Speaker B:No one said anything.
Speaker B:Which I appreciate it.
Speaker B:I said, I don't know what happened to y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:Y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:Y' all got on there and ran your mouth even.
Speaker B:Now, if people are wondering why I don't do, like, movie reviews for Tick Tock, I said, because everybody's doing them.
Speaker G:Yep.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I'm not part of that crew.
Speaker B:I like watching a movie and then I'll get out and I'll talk about it.
Speaker B:There's no shade in that.
Speaker B:But I'm like, I'm not doing it just to get clout.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's not a requirement.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker G:Literally doing it as they're leaving the theater.
Speaker C:You gotta be first or your last.
Speaker G:I get rich.
Speaker G:But still, I, I, I'd rather be it.
Speaker G:I'd rather be at the Pontarose Steakhouse.
Speaker G:I don't want to be told about who wins the race at the time.
Speaker G:You leave that.
Speaker G:That to me cheapens it.
Speaker G:Like I said, I kind of wish that it didn't happen, but let's be honest.
Speaker G:In this day and age.
Speaker G:Clicks, click.
Speaker B:Short attention span.
Speaker B:And I agree.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker B:So goes that.
Speaker B:Movie tickets are.
Speaker B:They're disgustingly high.
Speaker B:I've been seeing a lot of.
Speaker B:Hey, I can't get on to AMC stubs right now because even with my tickets at work, discount is like, it's crash.
Speaker B:Christy.
Speaker B:Christy D Says the same thing.
Speaker B:It's too expensive to bring a whole family.
Speaker B:You go to his family of four with a regular tickets price.
Speaker F:We need more dollar theaters.
Speaker G:Bring back the dollar theater.
Speaker G:Especially because when I had.
Speaker G:When we had ours, it did numbers.
Speaker C:AMCs expand.
Speaker C:Are they expand?
Speaker C:They're expanding it, I think.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker F:Doing the Wednesday.
Speaker G:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker F:I was.
Speaker F:I wonder if my AMC back home was participating because the dollar theater across the street just shut down.
Speaker F:So now they have no competition.
Speaker B:But that's.
Speaker B:That's what it made.
Speaker B:That's what I love going to a movie theater.
Speaker B:I definitely love going on an opening night.
Speaker B:For something that I have had anticipation to watch because I like being in the midst of that crowd.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:And being excited.
Speaker B:Cap picking up Thor's Hammer.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:You know, that's the one that's a.
Speaker G:Once in a lifetime.
Speaker G:But also the midnight showings, because some.
Speaker G:Some theaters.
Speaker G:I know.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker G:Some.
Speaker G:Some theaters, they do midnight showings, and they actually do fun things, like, you know, they'll add on extra stuff or free stuff, free swag, what have you.
Speaker G:But the experience isn't what it used to be anymore.
Speaker B:And I get what.
Speaker G:I get what you're saying, Chris.
Speaker G:The experience ain't what it used to be.
Speaker G:So, like.
Speaker G:Like most families.
Speaker G:Look, I know I got three kids going to the movie theaters is not fun.
Speaker B:Got to pull Black Missions.
Speaker B:You gotta pull Blackout.
Speaker G:Me and Obi have snuck out more times.
Speaker G:Go see a movie.
Speaker G:That boy.
Speaker G:That boy, I'll put his way, has seen more movies then he's seen Sesame street videos at this point.
Speaker F:I mean, hey, some of the promotion has been blackout missions, because when they finally want to let them go on tour, it's like, all right, what are you gonna do?
Speaker F:Barbershop and anime conventions?
Speaker F:Y' all clearly don't know what you're doing.
Speaker F:So I'm gonna just go with my people out and tell them to watch the stuff.
Speaker F:Yeah, she's got the tunnel and the song ready.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But that goes to show you that the age of theater going is obviously different.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We still have a.
Speaker B:A few drive in theaters, which I.
Speaker B:There's still a couple of them around, which is good.
Speaker D:I remember.
Speaker B:Oh, those were fun.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then, like, the one that's.
Speaker B:I don't want to say nearest, because they've never, like, nearby ever.
Speaker B:They're like 40 minutes out or something.
Speaker B:45 minutes out.
Speaker B:But even then, they.
Speaker B:There's enough good film right now out that they, you know, before used to be like, oh, I'll watch this.
Speaker B:But then the second screen over here has got something else I want to watch now.
Speaker B:It's like, yo, it was a time I watched Terminator 2 Oscar, and it was in, what was it?
Speaker B:Planet Eggs all at the same damn time.
Speaker G:And the sad part is, in this economy.
Speaker B:Don't ask me how I did that.
Speaker B:That's probably adhd.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker G:But drive throughs would make such a killing now, because think about.
Speaker G:I know the one I used to.
Speaker B:To go to.
Speaker G:You could watch three movies for $10.
Speaker G:And they had been.
Speaker G:And.
Speaker G:And I know for ours, we had vendor trucks so you had tacos, ribs, steaks all lined up.
Speaker B:What movie drive in theater.
Speaker B:You go, what the hell?
Speaker G:Yeah, that was ours.
Speaker D:Tennessee.
Speaker B:We had to fry our own chicken and sneak it in.
Speaker B:You talking about real?
Speaker G:It was literally.
Speaker G:I loved it.
Speaker G:It was the water town drive in.
Speaker G:Unfortunately, it did close down five years ago.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker G:It's an apartment lot now, but when I tell you.
Speaker G:When I tell you.
Speaker G:That was $10.
Speaker G:$10.
Speaker G:Three movies you had.
Speaker G:You set your radio to whatever frequency they were playing on.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker G:Screens were freaking crystal clear.
Speaker G:Food vendors were right there.
Speaker G:Prices, everything right there.
Speaker G:Get anything that you want.
Speaker G:Nobody caused any drama.
Speaker G:It was.
Speaker G:It was.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker G:And then, you know, we had to.
Speaker G:We had to lose it because, you know, developers.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker F:It'S been a good year for movies.
Speaker F:It's just the people who make them act like they scared to tell people if the cast is too dark.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker F:Because Cap came out and it was like, all right, we finally dropped the.
Speaker F:So Thunderbolts is on the way out.
Speaker F:Y' all saw Bucky was in the film, right?
Speaker B:Still.
Speaker B:Which still Cap.
Speaker B:Brave New World still made a turn in his profit.
Speaker B:It came second.
Speaker B:It's the second best Captain America movie.
Speaker F:It felt like they didn't want to claim Cap One like they were.
Speaker F:Everybody's so afraid of the DI label these days.
Speaker B:I just think Costco ain't.
Speaker F:You see how fast they put together Ironhearts red carpet premiere?
Speaker F:They knew exactly who to call when they needed it, which lets me know.
Speaker F:Lets me further know y' all know who to reach out to and when.
Speaker G:Yeah, like, I mean, but that's crazy.
Speaker B:These projects are fun.
Speaker B:If you don't.
Speaker B:If you're not familiar with the characters, it's a good time to jump, you know, jump on board to find out.
Speaker B:Go to.
Speaker B:There's certain white.
Speaker B:We do write ups on blurview.org so there's places you can go to to check them out and say, oh, that's who.
Speaker B:That kid Kira wasn't familiar with some of the characters in Superman.
Speaker C:I mean, everybody outside.
Speaker C:I'm not gonna hold you outside.
Speaker C:Superman.
Speaker C:I know who that is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I knew I knew Jimmy the way I knew Jimmy.
Speaker C:Not Jimmy Olsen out here in these streets.
Speaker D:Sweet Jimmy Brown.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But if you see.
Speaker B:If you see her.
Speaker B:Her rundown about Superman, that is how you do a review.
Speaker B:That's how you do a rundown to, like, I was giving it this number, but I decided to go back and watch it again because I didn't know who X Y and Z were right.
Speaker B:Once I found out about xyz, then I went back, checked it out again.
Speaker B:Different experience.
Speaker B:Because for a casual comic book fan, casual moviegoer, they may not know who the thunder.
Speaker B:All the thunderbolts were.
Speaker B:People trapped.
Speaker B:People tried to trash Black Widow.
Speaker B:What trash Black Widow was.
Speaker B:This was the wrong time to release.
Speaker B:That was something you should have released.
Speaker G:I mean, that could have been released before.
Speaker G:That could have been recent.
Speaker B:Phase one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then two.
Speaker B:Covet.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So it went straight to streaming.
Speaker B:And you can.
Speaker B:I can.
Speaker B:I just watched Black Widow two weeks ago because it's a fun film.
Speaker B:And besides, I like Elena.
Speaker B:She's.
Speaker B:She's.
Speaker B:She won me over right away.
Speaker G:The Mac and cheese line still gets me.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker G:I made you Mac and cheese.
Speaker C:The other thing that they're not.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I would love to talk to these people that are sitting down at these board meetings and talking and thinking about financials.
Speaker C:Who.
Speaker C:Why aren't you using these movies to drive people to buy your comic books?
Speaker C:Like, why?
Speaker C:Where is the.
Speaker C:The logic in there?
Speaker G:Because.
Speaker G:Because they're looking at toys.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Which is a dying breed.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They don't know how to spread the wealth.
Speaker B:That's the problem.
Speaker C:But formulated by saying, if you want to learn more about these characters and more at the end of the movie, here are issues.
Speaker C:Xyz da da da, run da da.
Speaker C:Go get them.
Speaker C:Here's a code for 5% off or some.
Speaker C:Or show your movie ticket and get XYZ amount of money off of it.
Speaker C:And now you're coming full circle.
Speaker D:But that would be common sense.
Speaker F:I mean, say what you want about Bo and X X Men, but he definitely gave you accurate homework every week.
Speaker F:And he basically, in one of his recent Twitter spills, he basically said, like, yeah, this is the type of stuff they wouldn't like.
Speaker F:You have like, Kevin, who gets it.
Speaker F:It's like, I understand that book.
Speaker F:I understand that reference.
Speaker F:And you have the other people in the room who are just like, yeah, can you dumb that down?
Speaker F:I don't get any of it.
Speaker F:And I don't think the people watching will either.
Speaker F:And then Bo's like, why do you think they're here?
Speaker F:So he's like, and then I look like the audience.
Speaker F:Yeah, he's like, and then I look like the.
Speaker F:In every meeting for saying, hey, let's do comic accurate things.
Speaker F:Let's call them by their names.
Speaker F:Not just the red one, blue one, and the green one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Mal makes a great point.
Speaker B:He's making a Great point.
Speaker B:He said, let's be real.
Speaker B:The ashen will think a white cap's ice is always colder, even when the white cap passed the mantle and chooses to be the black cat.
Speaker B:And it's true.
Speaker B:Cap in comics.
Speaker B:Cap in the movie, pass the shield on.
Speaker B:And they still gave Sam problems in the movie and in the comics.
Speaker F:And, and in, In a moon girl and double dinosaur.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:It's like, it's like his first arc.
Speaker G:Post, his first Art Pope shield was pretty much Thunderbolt all rejecting him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker G:It's like you got hate, the hatred that he had.
Speaker G:The Falcon, Winter Soldier.
Speaker G:That's basically the first 10 issues.
Speaker F:And, and now we're in the.
Speaker F:And now we're in the divorce arc.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I, I, I think what's happening.
Speaker B:And, and there are some people who are getting it before we wrap up.
Speaker B:There are some people who are getting it.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:And they're pushing past the, the red pill wave and the toxic masculinity, and they're pushing past it and literally going in and giving a project a chance and saying, oh, wow, this actually was really good.
Speaker B:I want to find out more.
Speaker B:There are some people who actually will go, hey, you know, there's comic book fans, actual fans, positive ones, who I want to take my kid to go see this.
Speaker B:And then they're more interested.
Speaker B:And now let's take them.
Speaker B:I want to take them to a brick and mortar so they can see.
Speaker B:That's why I shout out Carolyn, John's.
Speaker B:Because when John had his first child, he said, yes, it's a comic book store for fans like us.
Speaker B:But what about that generation that's coming up that we're raising?
Speaker B:So he created a whole, like, kids section, and you have a whole bunch of kid version of Wonder Woman, Batman, you know, all these different heroes, and they're written, they're actual written books by authors that they're out there, you know, that they can sit down at the table and play with their little, the little Legos or whatever and pick a book and read and, and their dad like, hey, I'm coming in.
Speaker B:Pull.
Speaker B:Get my pool is.
Speaker B:Hey, you little Timmy.
Speaker B:You see something you like?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want to get this, this Superman book.
Speaker B:So you just created a whole another fan now, and you get to pass on what made you get into comics and in that whole medium, and it's there, but it's too many people outside of us who think, oh, I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:Do you, though?
Speaker D:Do you really?
Speaker B:Because she's saying Superman is woke and it's like, do you even know what you're saying right now?
Speaker G:But that's what I always hated.
Speaker G:And I still do see it in comic book stores where you have, unfortunately, gatekeepers, and you have to check them.
Speaker G:It's like, just because you don't like Wonder Woman or you don't like Nubia Story, or you like Woman of Tomorrow, you shouldn't sit there and say it sucks.
Speaker G:You should sit there and say, I just didn't correct some people today.
Speaker G:Like, please don't say it sucks.
Speaker G:Just say it's not for you, but encourage someone.
Speaker B:Oh, better yet, don't say anything at all.
Speaker B:You know, if you don't plan on seeing it, just why are you on the post?
Speaker D:Don't.
Speaker D:How about that?
Speaker D:Just don't.
Speaker G:My thing has always been encouragement.
Speaker G:Like, I.
Speaker B:Again, I.
Speaker C:Kids.
Speaker G:Dear kids, to think that, oh, well, I've never heard of Trinity.
Speaker G:Okay, you never heard one of them had a daughter?
Speaker G:Here, read this.
Speaker G:Or, you know, again, I did not know about.
Speaker G:I did not know about rocking an icon.
Speaker G:Let me give you this entire stack here.
Speaker G:You know?
Speaker G:You know, that's.
Speaker G:That's my thing is, like, because I know I. I work with kids, so it's like, these kids see these.
Speaker G:These kids see these superheroes.
Speaker G:They're like, we don't know who they are.
Speaker G:Perfect time to sit there and go to a library and be.
Speaker G:Or go to a comic book store and say, here, sit down.
Speaker G:Read this.
Speaker G:See if you like it.
Speaker B:I'm like, I remember my son was coming up, and he was watching, like, oh, reruns of Static Shock.
Speaker B:It's weird saying that.
Speaker B:No, but he had a friend, and he was just like, yeah, I'm watching Static Shock.
Speaker B:And I'm walking past the room, and I'm like, his name's Static.
Speaker B:And I just kept walking.
Speaker F:I do that so much.
Speaker E:I do it myself.
Speaker G:You want to correct them so bad, it's just like, say it properly.
Speaker F:And now we got a Static and Batman beyond story written by somebody who grew up watching those shows.
Speaker B:And it's Ivy Draper.
Speaker G:I cannot wait to read that.
Speaker B:So we're getting ready to wrap this up.
Speaker D:Oh, so you ain't gonna ask me the question?
Speaker B:All right, go ahead.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker D:I'm between the Spartan and the Tafari, and I'm just getting.
Speaker F:Ma', am, stop.
Speaker D:I'm the commentary sandwich.
Speaker B:Wait, go ahead, Rev.
Speaker G:You have the sermon.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker D:No, I. I agree with.
Speaker D:With everybody.
Speaker D:I think the marketing has gotten.
Speaker D:Times are changing, and they're trying to Adapt.
Speaker D:But they're doing it the wrong way.
Speaker D:They're doing it all the wrong way.
Speaker D:You've, you've, you're, you're trying to appeal to an audience who can barely remember their own name, let alone what to wear for the day.
Speaker D:And you're thinking this is your money maker.
Speaker D:No, your money maker.
Speaker D:Coming from people who genuinely show you that they care, whether it's in a, in an argument or a conversation, they're still willing to go to the theater.
Speaker D:I love going to the theater.
Speaker D:There's something impersonal about sitting at home and watching a movie that I can go to a theater with other people, laugh together, gasp together, make a little comments.
Speaker D:But it's still, it's still community that's missing.
Speaker D:And these, these, the companies are trying so hard to put something out, just so they say they put it out, but they're stumbling and falling and wondering what's going on.
Speaker D:Oh, it's quite simple.
Speaker D:You're appealing to the wrong audience.
Speaker D:You're trying too hard to get these people who, like I said, they, their attention spans are, are like a can of soup.
Speaker D:It's not very long and it's not a whole lot on there.
Speaker D:If I'm lying, I'm dying.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker B:Well, I was gonna hold it because.
Speaker B:But hey, there it is.
Speaker F:He said it's, it's too many here.
Speaker F:Damn level drops.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:Well, Davy, you can sign it out.
Speaker B:Tell the people where they like.
Speaker D:Well, if you.
Speaker D:I'm just kidding.
Speaker D:Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, BL of all ages, good evening, good morning, good afternoon.
Speaker D:Z.
Speaker D:Navy Montel, your frosted bitter blood corn.
Speaker E:If you want to know what I'm.
Speaker D:Up to, come to Navy Montel across everything.
Speaker D:I was going to do a YouTube video about San Diego, but I think I'm going to do a live because I want to engage in conversation about San Diego and if I can get the right people invited in, we're gonna have a conversation.
Speaker D:Because I'm tired of people talking about this convention.
Speaker D:And yet you're not ready to deal with people, but you want to about it.
Speaker D:Cool.
Speaker D:Let's, let's have this conversation.
Speaker D:Let's have this discourse.
Speaker D:I want to talk about it.
Speaker D:And Atlanta Comic Con coming up next weekend, I'll be a Dragon Con.
Speaker D:If y' all are out there, you find me.
Speaker D:You see the beard?
Speaker D:Stop and say hello please, by all means.
Speaker D:And huh.
Speaker C:At any of his, his panels as well.
Speaker B:Yes, yes, he is.
Speaker B:He's a panelist this year at Dragon 2 Panels.
Speaker D:First time I have two panels.
Speaker D:Yes, they're both on Friday.
Speaker D:I have a panel with Greg Burnham, Marcus Williams and Afua Richardson talking about hip hop and comics.
Speaker D:And I'm the moderator, which is exciting and nerve wracking at the same time.
Speaker D:And I will be on a panel with our.
Speaker D:Our brother in arms blurred over and a hot wings and question panel.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:Dear God, Pepto will be on deck.
Speaker B:Fire.
Speaker B:You're gonna need to.
Speaker B:You're gonna need the Pepto.
Speaker D:Don't bring them wings either, bro.
Speaker D:Because I'm trying another four days.
Speaker F:Okay.
Speaker E:Oh my God.
Speaker F:Statue is only three pieces.
Speaker F:It's not that hard.
Speaker D:Yeah, well, I only got one stomach.
Speaker B:Lady.
Speaker F:The statue.
Speaker F:He has.
Speaker B:Talk to the people.
Speaker B:Lady.
Speaker B:Bed Lord.
Speaker C:Hi.
Speaker C:I don't know what's going on.
Speaker C:You can find me and this lovely love.
Speaker C:Yes, lovely gentleman.
Speaker C:Get right down there live on Sundays at 7pm Eastern Standard Time where we talk about indie comics.
Speaker C:Comics like it just had it.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker C:You should pick one up@raycomics.com you should tune in.
Speaker C:I am still 35 viewers away from being monetized because I got the hours.
Speaker C:I think officially now.
Speaker C:I think so.
Speaker C:Please, please help.
Speaker G:I'm so proud of you.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know it hurts.
Speaker F:She has 35 people.
Speaker F:35 people.
Speaker F:Click the damn button.
Speaker F:Tell them.
Speaker D:Almost there.
Speaker D:Almost there.
Speaker C:We are entertaining.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We don't around.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We got the good picks on these comics.
Speaker C:I don't, I don't.
Speaker C:Nobody on.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:If your shit's not great, I just.
Speaker C:I'm rooting for you to get better.
Speaker C:That's all.
Speaker C:You can also catch me doing like voiceover stuff on these Internet in general.
Speaker C:Currently did a voice for coins and items you can find on the Instagrams.
Speaker C:It's really fun.
Speaker C:And then last but not least, on Fridays, tomorrow at 7pm I play video games.
Speaker C:Tomorrow I'm gonna be playing.
Speaker C:I'm gonna be doing day three of Expedition 33 and Star Wars Legos, depending on how long I can stay awake.
Speaker B:Star Wars Legos fun.
Speaker B:That game is hilariously fun.
Speaker C:Especially when you realize that you've never played it before and you think you did.
Speaker F:Look there.
Speaker B:A lot of Lego games are very fun.
Speaker B:Yes, they are.
Speaker B:If you play the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The Marvel.
Speaker B:The Marvel Heroes where it's like I think 135 unlockable characters.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, that's just non stop fun.
Speaker B:Mayhem.
Speaker B:Talk to the people, people.
Speaker E:Hey, as.
Speaker E:As the newly appointed producer of the show, I'm trying to get us out of here on time.
Speaker E:So I'm.
Speaker E:Will I talk Movies and comics and stuff.
Speaker E:Find me at the thing you see up there.
Speaker E:Mental health's important.
Speaker E:Love yourself, love somebody else.
Speaker B:Move it on Spartan.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker G:Okay.
Speaker G:Yes it is.
Speaker G:I blocking the score.
Speaker G:Spartan,615 shows still going on.
Speaker G:How the frack we got here?
Speaker G:Course, every Wednesday at 7pm tomorrow, me, Tafara Joe and myself, we'll be doing the 200 episode of Get Bit Fridays at 8.
Speaker B:Congratulations.
Speaker B:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker G:We at the same time still, still doing games.
Speaker G:Uh, just a little bit later, still doing Wu Chang Fallen Feathers.
Speaker G:So it is a souls like game.
Speaker G:So if you'd like to see you like see someone get mad, cuss and then try to figure it out, join me.
Speaker G:It's fun.
Speaker G:At the same time, guys, respect cosplayers, wash your ass, don't be a dick and we'll all be cool.
Speaker B:I missed that one.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Too far.
Speaker B:Missed that calls line.
Speaker F:Yeah, I do the edits and things on this page.
Speaker F:So please, if you have been missing us in our absence, please go check out a clip.
Speaker F:Go check out a highlight.
Speaker F:Go to our playlist section.
Speaker F:We got to do a lot of cool stuff with Navy and Whoopty over at Momo Con.
Speaker F:We got to talk to the Boondocks cast, which was basically like a 40 minute improv set.
Speaker F:We got to talk to Ms. Zainabare who is a very kind, sweet individual, very much enjoying her come up and seeing her be successful.
Speaker F:Kira also got to talk to Crystal Chanel, which happy, happy dirty 30.
Speaker F:She's officially crossed over to the other side with me.
Speaker F:Yeah, please.
Speaker F:We upload Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays trying to get those back into the algorithm.
Speaker F:I know we've been gone, but we, we haven't actually been that gone.
Speaker F:Posting on my channel regularly.
Speaker F:It is same name on all platforms.
Speaker F:Finish Sonic and the Black Knight.
Speaker F:Still going through Zelda figuring out what to do next.
Speaker F:After I get done with these probably this week, I do take suggestions, so feel free to shout out.
Speaker F:I will see if I have it in my closet.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:I'm your man on the wall, captain of the ship, Chris Fury.
Speaker B:Thank you everyone for tuning in.
Speaker B:Thank you for all the people who are in the comments section.
Speaker B:Remember to tell everybody to tell a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend about Blur Eye View.
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Speaker B:We are live Tuesdays and Thursdays 8pm Eastern on YouTube and Twitch.
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Speaker B:Shout out to Trey Lawson.
Speaker B:Trey Lawson.
Speaker B:We are doing a lot of things.
Speaker B:So if people.
Speaker B:People keep asking, chris, why aren't you doing games on Twitch?
Speaker B:I was like, I'm doing a lot of other stuff.
Speaker B:I don't have time.
Speaker B:I'm only one man.
Speaker B:I don't have life model decoys at my disposal.
Speaker B:So with that being said, remember to educate yourself and others, entertain yourself and others.
Speaker B:Most of all, encourage yourself and others.
Speaker B:Check in with us next Tuesday, because who knows what we're talking about, what comics we're going to be covering and what indie stuff we'll be flipping off.
Speaker B:But until then, we will see you guys soon.
Speaker B:Snake, are you okay?
Speaker F:Snake?
Speaker B:Snake.
Speaker C:SA.
